From: Patrick Bond (pbond@mail.ngo.za)
Date: Fri Feb 15 2008 - 13:02:04 EST
Hi folks, Your pro-nuclear position is untenable from our vantagepoint in SA, Paul, given that in 2006 we had our main power outage (affecting all of Cape Town for a few days) due to a loose bolt that shut down the giant Koeberg nuclear station, and that we're campaigning like mad to stop the next-generation 'Pebble Bed' reactor technology. A chapter in a book (Climate Change, Carbon Trading and Civil Society) I coedited by my friend Muna Lakhani is available if you aren't convinced by proliferation risks; he covers the full gamut of arguments. The idea of 'trading rations' is a dangerous concession (made by Contraction&Convergence and EcoEquity people) to the market, which is a giant mess already, and cannot be cured by attempts to inject Rawlsian equity, especially in the climate of neolib-neocon fusion we're now suffering (and indeed will continue suffering thanks to the failure of all the major Northern electorates, perhaps Norway excepted, to generate even a single genuinely pro-peace government - and all because of oil). Moreover, you buy into way too many neoclassical assumptions about value measurements and efficiencies - and distract attention from the much more substantive - and achievable - means of reducing emissions. The transitional demands - I love that phrase (but please let's think of them as non-reformist reforms, as Gorz had it, so that options like nuclear quickly fall away) - would surely include payment of the vast ecological debt y'all up North owe the South for using the rainforests as a free sink, right? Or do you want to continue that form of accumulation by dispossession unhindered? Nah. As for Jurian, who's also a good comrade, how do you get the nerve to attack the practical, life-saving program of the Niger Delta activists or Ecuadoran indigenous people or progressives in Calgary and Oslo, and Alaskan environmentalists and all the others who've made this demand, some at the cost of their lives? Do you know how much money is drawn out of Southern countries by the extractive industries? If you don't believe me on the left, try the WB calculations from their 2006 book *Where is the Wealth of Nations?*, which demonstrate using just four GDP corrections - the main one for our purposes being depletion of nonrenewable resources - that there is a net negative wealth creation rate in most African countries, especially those suffering the Resource Curse. And if, armed with this stuff, you're interested in how to popularise a "Leave the Oil in the Soil" campaign for solidarity with oppressed people, and generalise it for the sake of the Planet, then it is indeed a worthy challenge to work out the implications of cold-turkey fossil fuel de-addiction project for Your People in Amsterdam, and mine in Durban (especially me with a much larger CO2 footprint due to flying around too much). That's work that should commence, not be rejected at the outset of the conversation, comrade. Patrick Paul Cockshott wrote: > We need to think through the implications certainly > > Some transitional demands: > 1. The need for nuclear reactors and almost certainly breeder reactors > 2. The need for transcontinental power grids to shift solar energy > from desert regions to the north > 3. Need for rationing of carbon, with all states getting the same per > capita ration, and individuals being able to trade their rations > > Jurriaan Bendien wrote: >> Leave the oil in the soil? Have you people ever seriously considered >> what that would imply in total for people's lives now? >> >> I think many of Patrick's efforts are admirable, but I personally >> would not want to be associated with this particular metaphor. I >> don't think anybody denies these days that ecological problems are >> real. It's a commonplace. But when we ask such questions as how we >> are going to tackle them, and what sort of people will support that, >> we straightaway confront the politics of social classes - and they >> think or act in ways which seem reasonable from the standpoint of >> their own position in the world. >> >> Jurriaan >> ----------- _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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