From: Ian Wright (wrighti@acm.org)
Date: Wed Apr 02 2008 - 12:59:37 EDT
Dogan I agree that "dialectic" refers to the basic ontology "of the world". In a way it is a very abstract theory of the ubiquitous causal processes that underly both being and thought. But there's no reason why the "dialectic" can be best understood in terms of natural language. I think that 19th Century developments, particularly the work of Turing, strongly suggest that the modern concept of "computation" refers to the basic ontology "of the world". Indeed I think that the theory of computation, given a materialist interpretation, is the most advanced expression of the "dialectic" so far grasped by the human mind. The objection that computation is merely "formal logic" is muddled since computation is more abstract than any specific logic and it is not a formal but a causal concept. Given this, I believe there's a danger that Marxists, by defending the important theoretical gains of the "dialectic", might nonetheless encourage students of Marxism, who have the opportunity to devote time to more theoretical work, to concentrate in natural language philosophy and analysis. If so, we will steer them away from more powerful tools that are essential for a deeper understanding of social processes; in a phrase, disarming them. >I would perhaps put it differently: "We have to study dialectics >because it explains our world and we have to study Marxism because it >is the most developed concepts of dialectics in our age and because it >helps us to understand our epoch called capitalism." I think you should replace "dialectics" in this sentence with "computer science, mathematics and the philosophical tradition of dialectical materialism". That's my advice to any youth that might listen. Best wishes, -Ian. _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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