Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious ideaV.3.0

From: Doğan Göçmen (dogangoecmen@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jun 20 2008 - 05:27:41 EDT


Narrow mindedness is to be attributed to right-wing thinkers like you. I read them but unlike you I do not rely on them.




Have you ever read any Marxist critique of Heidegger? I doubt. I stop
any e-mail exchange with you. I do ask however what people like you do
on this list?
 


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Doğan Göçmen
Author of The Adam Smith Problem:
Reconciling Human Nature and Society in
The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,
I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007

 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de>
To: Do?an Göçmen <dogangoecmen@aol.com>; OPE@t-online.de; List <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:05
Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious  ideaV.3.0










Cologne 20-Jun-2008

So you don't read Heidegger because it is politically incorrect to do
so? Nor Carl Schmitt? Nor Ernst Juenger? Such a politically correct
strategy cuts down your reading list, and also your mind's horizon. That
distinguishes having a worldview from philosophizing. To philosophize is
to free one's mind up.

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Do?an Göçmen schrieb Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:17:36 -0400:

>  What is philosophically not worthless for you, fascist Heidegger?
> German intellectuals still suffer from defeat of World War II.
> Therefore, start again with Heidegger?
> [Image] ----------------------
> Doğan Göçmen
> Author of The Adam Smith Problem:
> Reconciling Human Nature and Society in
> The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,
> I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007
>   -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de>
> To: Paul Cockshott <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Outline on Political Economy
> mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
> Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:44
> Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice
> specious idea V.3.0
>
> Cologne 19-Jun-2008
>
>
>
> Your left, right, neo- schematism has a frighteningly thick
> intellectual rigour
>
> about it. Presumably from a palaeo-left position. Such a political
> positioning
>
> does produce a certain order for the mind, but is philosophically
> worthless.
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>
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> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred (c)_-_-
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>
> Paul Cockshott schrieb Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:48:07 +0100:
>
>
>
> > Why?
>
> >
>
> > 1. Because OPE-L is not a place where you are likely to get a
> sympathetic
>
> >    hearing for neo-liberal  views that are well to the right of
> Christian
>
> >    Democracy.
>
> > 2. There are alternative neo-liberal and neo-Austrian forums which
> might be
>
> >    more suitable, but even in such a forum, the pretentious and
> wordy form
>
> >    taken by your very thin arguments is likely to restrict interest
> in your
>
> >    two papers .
>
> >
>
> >    There are much more intellectually rigorous and lively accounts
>
> >    available for the basic points you are putting forward.
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Michael Eldred [mailto:artefact@t-online.de]
>
> > Sent: 18 June 2008 16:57
>
> > To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list
>
> > Cc: Paul Cockshott
>
> > Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is
> a specious
>
> idea V.3.0
>
> >
>
> > Cologne 18-Jun-2008
>
> >
>
> > Why? For the precious few whose minds are not made up.
>
> >
>
> > All your terms are more than questionable.
>
> > Materialism, too, is an idea.
>
> > Even the issues of political economy are not settled, above all, the
> question
>
> concerning value, which underpins Ver. 3.0 of "Why social justice is a
> specious
>
> idea".
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> >
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> > Paul Cockshott schrieb Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:18 +0100:
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> >
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> > > Why bother circulating this dreadful and socially reactionary
> idealist
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> > > dross on a progressive political economy list?
>
> > >
>
> > > Paul Cockshott
>
> > > Dept of Computing Science
>
> > > University of Glasgow
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> > > +44 141 330 1629
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> > > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/
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> >
>
> > Paul Cockshott
>
> > Dept of Computing Science
>
> > University of Glasgow
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> > +44 141 330 1629
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> > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/
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> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu on behalf of Michael Eldred
>
> > Sent: Tue 6/17/2008 3:23 PM
>
> > To: Heidegger, An-archos; SPHS; artefact philosophy; OPE, List
>
> > Subject: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is a
> specious
>
> idea V.3.0
>
> >
>
> > Cologne 17-Jun-2008
>
> >
>
> > Friends of philosophy,
>
> >
>
> > Here is one new article:
>
> >
>
> > 1.) Absolutely Divine Everyday: Tracing Heidegger's thinking on
>
> > godliness -
>
> > With an appendix on Aristotle's purely energetic god of the fair
>
> >
>
> > Paper presented to the conference Heidegger und Religion in
> Messkirch,
>
> > 04-07 June 2008. The appendix endeavours to rethink Aristotle's
> famous
>
> > god in his Metaphysics.
>
> >
>
> > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/absdvnev.html
>
> > or
>
> > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/absdvnev.html
>
> >
>
> > and one revised article (Version 3.0)
>
> >
>
> > 2.) Why social justice is a specious idea
>
> >
>
> > The seductive, comforting idea of social justice leads inevitably to
> an
>
> > all-caring, social-totalitarian state that ruins its citizens
>
> > (inter-)play.
>
> >
>
> > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/scljstsp.html
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> > or
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> > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/scljstsp.html
>
> >
>
> > Michael
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