Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious ideaV.3.0

From: Doğan Göçmen (dogangoecmen@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jun 20 2008 - 06:02:44 EDT


 Jerry,

this email to my private address and to the list contains also an email address ( OPE@t-online.de) which uses the abriviation of our list. I was wondering whether it has anything to do with the list administration.

Dogan


 


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Doğan Göçmen
Author of The Adam Smith Problem:
Reconciling Human Nature and Society in
The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doğan Göçmen <dogangoecmen@aol.com>
To: artefact@web.de; ope@lists.csuchico.edu; OPE@t-online.de
Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:27
Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious  ideaV.3.0














Narrow mindedness is to be attributed to right-wing thinkers like you. I read them but unlike you I do not rely on them.





Have you ever read any Marxist critique of Heidegger? I doubt. I stop
any e-mail exchange with you. I do ask however what people like you do
on this list?

 





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Doğan Göçmen

Author of The Adam Smith Problem:

Reconciling Human Nature and Society in

The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,

I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007



 





 



-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de>

To: Do?an Göçmen <dogangoecmen@aol.com>; OPE@t-online.de; List <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>

Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:05

Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious  ideaV.3.0













Cologne 20-Jun-2008



So you don't read Heidegger because it is politically incorrect to do

so? Nor Carl Schmitt? Nor Ernst Juenger? Such a politically correct

strategy cuts down your reading list, and also your mind's horizon. That

distinguishes having a worldview from philosophizing. To philosophize is

to free one's mind up.



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Do?an Göçmen schrieb Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:17:36 -0400:



>  What is philosophically not worthless for you, fascist Heidegger?

> German intellectuals still suffer from defeat of World War II.

> Therefore, start again with Heidegger?

> [Image] ----------------------

> Doğan Göçmen

> Author of The Adam Smith Problem:

> Reconciling Human Nature and Society in

> The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,

> I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007

>   -----Original Message-----

> From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de>

> To: Paul Cockshott <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Outline on Political Economy

> mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>

> Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:44

> Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice

> specious idea V.3.0

>

> Cologne 19-Jun-2008

>

>

>

> Your left, right, neo- schematism has a frighteningly thick

> intellectual rigour

>

> about it. Presumably from a palaeo-left position. Such a political

> positioning

>

> does produce a certain order for the mind, but is philosophically

> worthless.

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> Paul Cockshott schrieb Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:48:07 +0100:

>

>

>

> > Why?

>

> >

>

> > 1. Because OPE-L is not a place where you are likely to get a

> sympathetic

>

> >    hearing for neo-liberal  views that are well to the right of

> Christian

>

> >    Democracy.

>

> > 2. There are alternative neo-liberal and neo-Austrian forums which

> might be

>

> >    more suitable, but even in such a forum, the pretentious and

> wordy form

>

> >    taken by your very thin arguments is likely to restrict interest

> in your

>

> >    two papers .

>

> >

>

> >    There are much more intellectually rigorous and lively accounts

>

> >    available for the basic points you are putting forward.

>

> >

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> > From: Michael Eldred [mailto:artefact@t-online.de]

>

> > Sent: 18 June 2008 16:57

>

> > To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list

>

> > Cc: Paul Cockshott

>

> > Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is

> a specious

>

> idea V.3.0

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> >

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> > Cologne 18-Jun-2008

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> >

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> > Why? For the precious few whose minds are not made up.

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> >

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> > All your terms are more than questionable.

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> > Materialism, too, is an idea.

>

> > Even the issues of political economy are not settled, above all, the

> question

>

> concerning value, which underpins Ver. 3.0 of "Why social justice is a

> specious

>

> idea".

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> >

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> > Paul Cockshott schrieb Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:18 +0100:

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> >

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> > > Why bother circulating this dreadful and socially reactionary

> idealist

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> > > dross on a progressive political economy list?

>

> > >

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> > > Paul Cockshott

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> > > Dept of Computing Science

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> > > University of Glasgow

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> > > +44 141 330 1629

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> > > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/

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> >

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> > Paul Cockshott

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> > Dept of Computing Science

>

> > University of Glasgow

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> > +44 141 330 1629

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> > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/

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> >

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> > From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu on behalf of Michael Eldred

>

> > Sent: Tue 6/17/2008 3:23 PM

>

> > To: Heidegger, An-archos; SPHS; artefact philosophy; OPE, List

>

> > Subject: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is a

> specious

>

> idea V.3.0

>

> >

>

> > Cologne 17-Jun-2008

>

> >

>

> > Friends of philosophy,

>

> >

>

> > Here is one new article:

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> >

>

> > 1.) Absolutely Divine Everyday: Tracing Heidegger's thinking on

>

> > godliness -

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> > With an appendix on Aristotle's purely energetic god of the fair

>

> >

>

> > Paper presented to the conference Heidegger und Religion in

> Messkirch,

>

> > 04-07 June 2008. The appendix endeavours to rethink Aristotle's

> famous

>

> > god in his Metaphysics.

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> >

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> > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/absdvnev.html

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> > or

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> > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/absdvnev.html

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> >

>

> > and one revised article (Version 3.0)

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> >

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> > 2.) Why social justice is a specious idea

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> >

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> > The seductive, comforting idea of social justice leads inevitably to

> an

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> > all-caring, social-totalitarian state that ruins its citizens

>

> > (inter-)play.

>

> >

>

> > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/scljstsp.html

>

> > or

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> > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/scljstsp.html

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> >

>

> > Michael

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