From: Doğan Göçmen (dogangoecmen@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jun 20 2008 - 06:02:44 EDT
Jerry, this email to my private address and to the list contains also an email address ( OPE@t-online.de) which uses the abriviation of our list. I was wondering whether it has anything to do with the list administration. Dogan ---------------------- Doğan Göçmen Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007 -----Original Message----- From: Doğan Göçmen <dogangoecmen@aol.com> To: artefact@web.de; ope@lists.csuchico.edu; OPE@t-online.de Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:27 Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious ideaV.3.0 Narrow mindedness is to be attributed to right-wing thinkers like you. I read them but unlike you I do not rely on them. Have you ever read any Marxist critique of Heidegger? I doubt. I stop any e-mail exchange with you. I do ask however what people like you do on this list? ---------------------- Doğan Göçmen Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de> To: Do?an Göçmen <dogangoecmen@aol.com>; OPE@t-online.de; List <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:05 Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice specious ideaV.3.0 Cologne 20-Jun-2008 So you don't read Heidegger because it is politically incorrect to do so? Nor Carl Schmitt? Nor Ernst Juenger? Such a politically correct strategy cuts down your reading list, and also your mind's horizon. That distinguishes having a worldview from philosophizing. To philosophize is to free one's mind up. _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ _-_-_-_- artefact@t-online.de _-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred (c)_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Do?an Göçmen schrieb Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:17:36 -0400: > What is philosophically not worthless for you, fascist Heidegger? > German intellectuals still suffer from defeat of World War II. > Therefore, start again with Heidegger? > [Image] ---------------------- > DoÄŸan Göçmen > Author of The Adam Smith Problem: > Reconciling Human Nature and Society in > The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, > I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007 > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Eldred <artefact@t-online.de> > To: Paul Cockshott <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Outline on Political Economy > mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> > Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:44 > Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday, Why social justice > specious idea V.3.0 > > Cologne 19-Jun-2008 > > > > Your left, right, neo- schematism has a frighteningly thick > intellectual rigour > > about it. Presumably from a palaeo-left position. Such a political > positioning > > does produce a certain order for the mind, but is philosophically > worthless. > > > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ _-_-_-_- artefact@t-online.de _-_ > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred (c)_-_- > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > > > > > Paul Cockshott schrieb Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:48:07 +0100: > > > > > Why? > > > > > > 1. Because OPE-L is not a place where you are likely to get a > sympathetic > > > hearing for neo-liberal views that are well to the right of > Christian > > > Democracy. > > > 2. There are alternative neo-liberal and neo-Austrian forums which > might be > > > more suitable, but even in such a forum, the pretentious and > wordy form > > > taken by your very thin arguments is likely to restrict interest > in your > > > two papers . > > > > > > There are much more intellectually rigorous and lively accounts > > > available for the basic points you are putting forward. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Eldred [mailto:artefact@t-online.de] > > > Sent: 18 June 2008 16:57 > > > To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list > > > Cc: Paul Cockshott > > > Subject: Re: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is > a specious > > idea V.3.0 > > > > > > Cologne 18-Jun-2008 > > > > > > Why? For the precious few whose minds are not made up. > > > > > > All your terms are more than questionable. > > > Materialism, too, is an idea. > > > Even the issues of political economy are not settled, above all, the > question > > concerning value, which underpins Ver. 3.0 of "Why social justice is a > specious > > idea". > > > > > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > > > > > > > Paul Cockshott schrieb Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:18 +0100: > > > > > > > Why bother circulating this dreadful and socially reactionary > idealist > > > > dross on a progressive political economy list? > > > > > > > > Paul Cockshott > > > > Dept of Computing Science > > > > University of Glasgow > > > > +44 141 330 1629 > > > > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/ > > > > > > Paul Cockshott > > > Dept of Computing Science > > > University of Glasgow > > > +44 141 330 1629 > > > www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu on behalf of Michael Eldred > > > Sent: Tue 6/17/2008 3:23 PM > > > To: Heidegger, An-archos; SPHS; artefact philosophy; OPE, List > > > Subject: [OPE] Absolutely Divine Everyday,Why social justice is a > specious > > idea V.3.0 > > > > > > Cologne 17-Jun-2008 > > > > > > Friends of philosophy, > > > > > > Here is one new article: > > > > > > 1.) Absolutely Divine Everyday: Tracing Heidegger's thinking on > > > godliness - > > > With an appendix on Aristotle's purely energetic god of the fair > > > > > > Paper presented to the conference Heidegger und Religion in > Messkirch, > > > 04-07 June 2008. The appendix endeavours to rethink Aristotle's > famous > > > god in his Metaphysics. > > > > > > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/absdvnev.html > > > or > > > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/absdvnev.html > > > > > > and one revised article (Version 3.0) > > > > > > 2.) Why social justice is a specious idea > > > > > > The seductive, comforting idea of social justice leads inevitably to > an > > > all-caring, social-totalitarian state that ruins its citizens > > > (inter-)play. > > > > > > http://home.tiscali.de/artefact/untpltcl/scljstsp.html > > > or > > > http://192.220.96.165/untpltcl/scljstsp.html > > > > > > Michael > > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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