Re: [OPE] Behavioural economics: a revolution in science?

1) Ekeland: “That the neo-classical economists are unable to prove mathematically convergence to such an equilibrium even in the most perfect models undermines the whole project too.”   Ekeland is right and his observation finds its roots in Morgenstern, who was concerned about the determination of an optimal game strategy, which he understood that it was radically different from the determination of “general equilibrium” that requires too demanding conditions. So, Morgenstern wondered how the neoclassical economists were so bold to postulate a stable economic system if the stability of another much simpler system, that one of the orbit of the moon around the earth, still could not be proved. 2) Williams: “Then, the most substantial criticisms of static equilibrium models come not from Marxists but from the Austrian School. Who amongst other things, rejected neoclassical equilibrium models because they seemed to justify (through their market failure theories) large amounts of state intervention in markets.”   I agree with Williams. But in addition to the market failure another key aspect that justifies State intervention, is the fact that the goal of many economists from Adam Smith to Vilfredo Pareto has been the equalization of “selling prices” to “marginal costs”, pricing process that in real capitalist economies takes place fixing prices above marginal costs and taking possession of the proceeds. Even Vilfredo Pareto recognized that this only could be achieved in a Socialist economy. But the handicaps of Behavioural Economics, understood as “game theory”, to understand the phenomena of institutional real world, manifested in Morgenstern when he noted that the neoclassical assumption of “perfect foresight” of the agents would be replaced in his theory by the assumption of “perfect and complete information” as these concepts are used in game theory –according to Morgenstern– in a specific way and without contradiction.   This led to the development of the “theory of expected utility” and thus, investment and consumption decisions allegedly could be treated successfully from the likelihood that an individual faces when making decisions in an environment of rivalry.   Kind regards,A. Agafonow   ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Michael Williams <michael.williams.j@googlemail.com> Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> Enviado: domingo, 28 de septiembre, 2008 13:55:32 Asunto: RE: [OPE] Behavioural economics: a revolution in science? Maybe static equilibrium models are an abstraction that behavioural economics can play some small part in concretising? Then, all abstractions are, in a naïve sense 'unrealistic'. To move beyond that would involve criticising the usefulness, relevance, ideological partiality, etc. of this as opposed to some other abstraction. (I have a feeling that Marx writes somewhere something along the lines of 'To think is to abstract', but I have never managed to find a source. Can anyone help?) An abstraction that can be successfully concretised does then not rely for its validity on mathematical proofs of convergence. Then, the most substantial criticisms of static equilibrium models come not from Marxists but from the Austrian School. Who amongst other things, rejected neoclassical equilibrium models because they seemed to justify (through their market failure theories) large amounts of state intervention in markets. As to that hoary old chestnut under which soi-disant revolutionary socialist save their most vicious attacks for those they label 'reformist' ... well I can think of a few reforms that would benefit the deprived of this world while we all wait for the second coming of 'the revolution', and that could be implemented in a way that would move us along the road to the revolutionary transformations that I would guess all OPE'ers are working for. comradely michael -------------------------------------------- Dr Michael Williams, BA, MSc, PhD Mob +447906172655 Home tel +4423 80768641  Help save paper - Do you need to print this email? -----Original Message----- From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu [mailto:ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu] On Behalf Of Anders Ekeland Sent: 28 September 2008 09:28 To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list Subject: Re: [OPE] Behavioural economics: a revolution in science? Hi, maybe the behaviuoural economics will be the main-streams way out of the *static* equilibrium straight jacket  - especially since it does not mean that you have to say to heterodox critics: "You were right" and do not have openly to take on board the mostly left wing implications of rejecting static models. The totally unrealistic character of static equilibrium theory was not wanted, it is just necessary if you want the political, neo-liberal "results" (no role for government, unions etc. etc.). That the neo-classical economists are unable to prove mathematically convergence to such an equilibrium even in the most perfect models undermines the whole project too. But what behavioural economics (and "information economics", "institutional economics") introduces is precisely *dynamics", i.e. learning, path-dependency etc. etc. Akerlof and "The market for lemons" has kicked in this (for heterodox economists) open door already. But that was when the "cold war" still was going on. The elites has all the time had the choice between static theory being ideologically strong but empirically useless, and dynamic theory (institutional, behavioural, Schumpeterian) much more realistic, but less ideologically dominant. These guys are indeed going to be "soft" and "reformist", here is their evaluation of main stream economics: "Orthodox economic models are not wrong as such, but rather sloppy, biased approximations of how our economy works. They present a cartoon characterisation of economic life, greatly exaggerating one side of our nature at the expense of others. Behavioural economics has started to paint a more realistic picture." "... not wrong as such ..." - rather feeble start of a revolution! Regards Anders At 19:14 27.09.2008, you wrote: >... a revolution is under way in economic >thought. Behavioural economics is no bell or >whistle on the contraption of traditional >economics; it is a big departure which will >deliver a revolutionary new way of understanding >the world. The founding assumptions of orthodox, >neoclassical economics—that people can be >thought of as rational, selfish and >independent—are collapsing under the weight of >empirical refutations. Here is one example: the >“ultimatum game,” which typifies the story of >behavioural economics with a curious yet simple >experiment. As you know, in this two-player >game, the “proposer” is given a sum (say £10) on >condition that he or she offers a proportion to >the “responder.” If the responder accepts the >offer, each player gets the amounts agreed. If >he or she rejects it, both get nothing. Orthodox >economics says players are selfish, and so >predicts that the proposer will offer just a >penny and the responder, preferring a penny to >nothing, will accept. But this is not what >happens. The most common offer is half the total >sum, and offers of less than 30 per cent are >almost always rejected. If the proposer’s offer >is seen as unfair, the responder will decline >free money. ><http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10359>http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10359 > > >_______________________________________________ >ope mailing list >ope@lists.csuchico.edu >https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: 27/09/2008 13:11 _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope

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