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Every non-signed article is assumed as coming from the editorial board.
In any case, your latest emails demonstrate that you are accepting, much =
to your regret, that the "opinion" expressed in that article is not a =
neutral one. It is biased against Chavez, and then I ask you again: Why =
to "giv[e] to El Pa=C3=ADs the benefit of the doubt" if it backed the =
coup against Ch=C3=A1vez (in 2002) that put in power the president of =
the employers?
[Sorry, Jerry, but I get my own emails in a defectuous transcription. =
Can you do something at this regard? Thanks]
Diego
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Alejandro Agafonow=20
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list=20
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America
To be fair with you Diego, it is true that the article which you =
pointed out, though published in the OPINION section, does not seem to =
have the name of its author. Why? Maybe one the editors decided to =
express an opinion.
=20
That=E2=80=99s what serious newspapers do. To distinguished among 1) =
institutional positions, 2) opinions, and 3) information.
=20
A. Agafonow
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De: Diego Guerrero <diego.guerrero1@telefonica.net>
Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list =
<ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
Enviado: jueves, 5 de marzo, 2009 11:43:42
Asunto: Re: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America
=EF=BB=BF=20
Why to "giv[e] to El Pa=C3=ADs the benefit of the doubt" if it backed =
the coup against Ch=C3=A1vez (in 2002) that put in power the president =
of the employers?
=
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/opinion/VENEZUELA/Golpe/caudillo/elpepiopi=
/20020413elpepiopi_2/Tes
Diego
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Alejandro Agafonow=20
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list=20
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America
In a country with strong institutions of accountability, features =
like those below would motivate an investigation on the part of =
competent authorities.
Los Ch=C3=A1vez en su Feudo
=
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/reportajes/Chavez/feudo/elpepusocdmg/20081=
123elpdmgrep_1/Tes
Bienvenidos a =E2=80=98Chavezlandia=E2=80=99
=
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/portada/Bienvenidos/Chavezlandia/elpepusoc=
eps/20061203elpepspor_6/Tes
But these institutions are being dismantled in Venezuela . Our last =
hope relies on the socialists, who we expect to have untouched integrity =
and the courage to denounce any departure from strict transparency =
criteria. Well, some these socialist in Venezuela react, not giving to =
El Pa=C3=ADs the benefit of the doubt, but openly insulting this =
newspaper, like did Jos=C3=A9 Sant Roz in Aporrea:
http://www.aporrea.org/medios/a27845.html
Concerning OPE-L, there is a big problem with its design. As far as =
I understand it was conceived to let a group of socialist scholars to =
debate controversial issues beyond the biases that daily militancy life =
impose. But since its archives are open, some of these socialists feel =
obliged to show their loyalty with the militancy, with which I suspect =
they have tight-bounds.
It is a pity but in this scenario a sincere and transparent =
discussion is impossible.
A. Agafonow
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De: GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com>
Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list =
<ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
Enviado: mi=C3=A9rcoles, 4 de marzo, 2009 20:20:02
Asunto: RE: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America
> where the mother of Ch=C3=A1vez appeared sumptuously dressed.=20
=20
=20
Let's see the picture, Alejandro. If Chavez's mother was so =
"sumptuously dressed", I imagine _lots_ of people saw that and lots of =
pictures were taken.
=20
=20
> Your tolerance of these abuses=20
=20
=20
No, what you are seeing it is my *intolerance* of the spreading of =
*urban myths* on this list.
Anyone is free to say what they want on this list, provided it is =
not a flame, but if claims are=20
made then the person making them (in this case, you) should be held =
accountable to others=20
on the list.=20
=20
> you don=E2=80=99t support accountability mechanisms indeed .
=20
=20
See above. I am holding *you* accountable for *your* claims. Please =
note that I am *in NO=20
way* threatening you. On the contrary, the worst that can happen to =
you is simply that others on the list and the readers of the archive =
will know that your claims about Chavez can not be supported=20
with credible, independent evidence. Frankly, I think they've =
already seen more than enough to=20
come to that assessment, but I leave it to others to come to their =
own conclusions.
=20
In solidarity, Jerry
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In any case, your latest emails =
demonstrate that=20
you are accepting, much to your regret, that the "opinion" expressed in =
that=20
article is not a neutral one. It is biased against Chavez, and then I =
ask you=20
again: Why <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D3>to "<SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">giv[e] to El Pa=C3=ADs the benefit of the =
doubt" if it=20
backed the coup against Ch=C3=A1vez (in 2002) that put in power the =
president of the=20
employers?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND: =
white">[Sorry,=20
Jerry, but I get my own emails in a defectuous transcription. Can you do =
something at this regard? Thanks]</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">Diego</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dalejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es=20
href=3D"mailto:alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es">Alejandro Agafonow</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dope@lists.csuchico.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:ope@lists.csuchico.edu">Outline on Political Economy =
mailing=20
list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 05, 2009 =
12:38=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OPE] Venezuela is =
the most=20
democratic country in Latin America</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif">
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">To be fair with you Diego, it =
is true=20
that the article which you pointed out, though published in the =
OPINION=20
section, does not seem to have the name of its author. Why? Maybe one =
the=20
editors decided to express an opinion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">That=E2=80=99s what serious =
newspapers do. To=20
distinguished among 1) institutional positions, 2) opinions, and 3)=20
information.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: =
black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">A.=20
Agafonow</SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif"><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
<HR SIZE=3D1>
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> Diego Guerrero=20
<diego.guerrero1@telefonica.net><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B> Outline on Political =
Economy=20
mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado:</SPAN></B> jueves, 5 de marzo, =
2009=20
11:43:42<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> =
Re: [OPE]=20
Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America<BR></FONT><BR>=EF=BB=BF=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why <FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><FONT size=3D3>to=20
"<SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">giv[e] to El Pa=C3=ADs the benefit =
of the doubt"=20
if it backed the coup against Ch=C3=A1vez (in 2002) that put in power =
the president=20
of the employers?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.elpais.com/articulo/opinion/VENEZUELA/Golpe/caudillo/e=
lpepiopi/20020413elpepiopi_2/Tes"=20
target=3D_blank=20
=
rel=3Dnofollow>http://www.elpais.com/articulo/opinion/VENEZUELA/Golpe/cau=
dillo/elpepiopi/20020413elpepiopi_2/Tes</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diego</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dalejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es =
href=3D"mailto:alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es">Alejandro =
Agafonow</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dope@lists.csuchico.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:ope@lists.csuchico.edu" target=3D_blank =
rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:ope@lists.csuchico.edu">Outline on Political =
Economy mailing=20
list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 05, =
2009 10:05=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OPE] Venezuela =
is the=20
most democratic country in Latin America</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif">
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">In a country with strong =
institutions=20
of accountability, <SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">feature</SPAN>s =
like=20
those below would motivate an investigation on the part of competent =
authorities.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN =
lang=3DES-TRAD=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Los Ch=C3=A1vez en su =
Feudo</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN =
lang=3DES-TRAD=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.elpais.com/articulo/reportajes/Chavez/feudo/elpepusocd=
mg/20081123elpdmgrep_1/Tes"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT=20
=
color=3D#800080>http://www.elpais.com/articulo/reportajes/Chavez/feudo/el=
pepusocdmg/20081123elpdmgrep_1/Tes</FONT></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN =
lang=3DES-TRAD=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN =
lang=3DES-TRAD=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Bienvenidos a=20
=E2=80=98Chavezlandia=E2=80=99</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.elpais.com/articulo/portada/Bienvenidos/Chavezlandia/e=
lpepusoceps/20061203elpepspor_6/Tes"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT=20
=
color=3D#800080>http://www.elpais.com/articulo/portada/Bienvenidos/Chavez=
landia/elpepusoceps/20061203elpepspor_6/Tes</FONT></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">But these institutions are =
being=20
dismantled in Venezuela . Our last hope relies on the socialists, =
who we=20
expect to have untouched integrity and the <SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">courage</SPAN> to denounce any departure =
from=20
strict transparency criteria. Well, some these socialist in =
Venezuela react,=20
not <SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">giving to El Pa=C3=ADs the =
benefit of the=20
doubt</SPAN>, but openly insulting this <SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">newspaper</SPAN>, like did </SPAN><FONT=20
size=3D3><SPAN>Jos=C3=A9 Sant Roz in Aporrea:</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.aporrea.org/medios/a27845.html" target=3D_blank=20
rel=3Dnofollow><FONT=20
=
color=3D#800080>http://www.aporrea.org/medios/a27845.html</FONT></A></SPA=
N></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Concerning OPE-L, there is a =
big=20
problem with its design. As far as I understand it was conceived to =
let a=20
group of socialist scholars to debate controversial issues beyond =
the biases=20
that daily militancy life impose. But since its archives are open, =
some of=20
these socialists feel obliged to show their <SPAN=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: white">loyalty</SPAN> with the militancy, with =
which I=20
suspect they have tight-bounds.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'">It is=20
a pity but in this scenario a sincere and transparent discussion is=20
impossible.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'"></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN> </P><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'">A.=20
Agafonow</SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif"><BR>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif"><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
<HR SIZE=3D1>
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> GERALD LEVY=20
<gerald_a_levy@msn.com><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B> Outline on Political =
Economy=20
mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado:</SPAN></B> mi=C3=A9rcoles, 4 de =
marzo, 2009=20
20:20:02<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> =
RE: [OPE]=20
Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin =
America<BR></FONT><BR>
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<SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3>> where the mother of Ch=C3=A1vez appeared =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; BACKGROUND: white; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'">sumptuous</SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'">ly=20
</SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3>dressed. </FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>Let's see =
the picture,=20
Alejandro. If Chavez's mother was so "sumptuously dressed", I =
imagine=20
_lots_ of people saw that and lots of pictures were=20
taken.</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>> Your =
tolerance of=20
these abuses </FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>No, what you =
are seeing=20
it is my *intolerance* of the spreading of *urban myths* on =
this=20
list.</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>Anyone is =
free to say=20
what they want on this list, provided it is not a flame, but if =
claims are=20
</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>made then =
the person=20
making them (in this case, you) should be held accountable to others =
</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>on the list. =
</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>> =
you don=E2=80=99t=20
support accountability mechanisms indeed .</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT =
size=3D3>See</FONT></SPAN> above.=20
I am holding *you* accountable for *your* claims. Please note that I =
am *in=20
NO </FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>way* =
threatening you. On=20
the contrary, the worst that can happen to you is simply that others =
on the=20
list </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>and the =
readers of the=20
archive will know that your claims about Chavez can not be =
supported=20
</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>with =
credible,=20
independent evidence. Frankly, I think they've already seen =
more than=20
enough to </FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>come to that =
assessment,=20
but I leave it to others to come to their own=20
conclusions.</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3D3>In =
solidarity,=20
Jerry</FONT></SPAN><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>
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