>
> But, the question that you ask is a good one.  Both Khruschev and Lenin
> (but not so much Mao - at least from the Great Leap Forward and after)
> shared the belief that socialist relations of production would arise as a
> consequence of increasing forces of production, but there is obviously no
> necessary reason why this must be the case.
>
> The Bolsheviks, especially in the early period, tended to somewhat 
> uncritically glorify
> the empowering possibilities of  advances in technology and 
> industrialization.
> This romanticisation of industrialization could also be seen in the 
> constructivist
> art of the period.
>   
 Yes but  if we  take Bettleheim seriously  we have to ask  in what way 
would  socialist relations of production alter the nature of the 
productive forces.
If we model the transition between modes of production as a Markov 
process then in any given year there is a certain transition 
probablility P(c->s) for a society going from capitalism to socialism, 
there is also a transition probability for a society going from 
socialism back to capitalism P(s->c).
If each probability is non zero we will end up with a population of 
societies that is a stochastic mix or capitalist and socialist states. 
Such a transition system has an equilibrium mix and does not show 
secular evolution.
If we just characterise societies as socialist or capitalist in terms of 
social relations then the above argument is actually an argument about 
transtions between ensembles not individual states. One ensemble   we 
characterise as capitalism and
the other socialism. Within each ensemble or macrostate, there is a 
plethora of microstates characterised by different combinations of 
forces of production with the broadly socialist or broadly capitalist 
relations of production, and also by a plethora of variations of 
property and authority relations within the broadly capitalist or 
broadly socialist categories.
To show a secular evolution of modes of production such that mode of 
production A is superior to B ( say A= capitalism
B= feudalism ) then we have to have the property that the reverse 
transtion P(a->b) falls over time. In the capitalist case this was 
because capitalist agriculture and capitalist industry developed new 
forces of production whose operation under the old feudal relations of 
production was improbable. Thus the longer capitalism existed, the less 
likely a feudal restoration became.
The question one has to ask is whether we can say the same thing about 
socialism. Is it the case that the longer a socialist society exits, the 
more it develops new modes of material production that would be hard to 
operate under capitalist relations of production?
And if that is the case, does the existence of these new modes and 
techniques of  material production reduce the probability of capitalist 
restorations?
It seems to me that these are quite open questions. On the one hand the 
USSR clearly developed organisations and structures of production that 
were crucially dependent on the all union planned economy. When that was 
removed after the Yeltsin coup there was a wholesale collapse of 
production and a huge increase in mortality rates.
So the USSR developed forces of production whose continued operation was 
not compatible with capitalism, but the mere existence of these forces 
of production does not itself seem to have been sufficient to reduce the 
transition flux P(s->c)
towards zero.
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