Jerry,
As I see the debate is not just about Lenin's theory of imperialism whether it was valid at that time when it was formulated but also whether it can be used to explain the more contemporary developments. So the question we discus is in fact about whether the contemporary developments are contradictory in nature or not. If yes, then we have to use the method Lenin used to explain the nature of imperialism as David and I claim. If not, then we have to use another theoretical device. It is suggested by Paul C that Kautsky's ultraimperialism is a better theoretical device and this is also implied by Dave Z. But then if you rely on Kautsky's hypothesis you have to explain the contradictory nature of current developments. How do we account for them if we reject right from the beginning the contradiction is the principle we have to rely on.
D.Göçmen
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All:
 
I'm afraid I haven't been following this thread closely - I've had other matters 
on my mind recently - but I have a suggestions. Since most of the commentators 
appear to be getting frustrated with the discussion, my suggestion is that you 
all move away (at least, temporaily) from a discussion of Lenin's theory of 
imperialism and its possible interpretation and implications, to a discussion 
which centers around identifying what *facts* related to the contemporary 
international capitalist system you are in disagreement about. If you can first 
identify what are the factual disagreements, then you can bring forth historical 
and empirical evidence in support of your understanding of those "facts".
 
Dave Z: what *specific* factual claims which David made in his article are you 
challenging?
 
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