Dear all,
first of all, I wanted to thank Jurriaan for his
mail of Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:50:0. Of course, I
would be very interested to have his views about
the "firm leverage", etc. It is a controversial
issue, so better if he joins into the discussion.
Second, I wanted to observe that Jurriann is
quite right, in his mail below, to be outraged of
the prices of our book. Of course, as Chris and
Paul Z. note, we editors could not do much -
except not writing or editing those books of
course.
But the books should be bought by libraries. And
potential readers should ask libraries to buy
them.
I assure you that I insisted several times, both
with Elgar and Macmillan/Palgrave for paperback
editions of the books on Minsky and on Marx (ISMT
collection).
What I think could be done, if really there is an
interest, is that potential buyers write to the
publishers urging that some books be made
available in paperback.
So, I side completely with Chris.
riccardo
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> 4. Re: Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
> (Michael Perelman)
> 5. lies and medical statistics (Paula)
> 6. Re: Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
> (Alejandro Agafonow)
> 7. Lecture for a Chinese Delegation (michael perelman)
> 8. Re: Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
> (Anders Ekeland)
> 9. Fantasy and Science Fiction for Socialists (GERALD LEVY)
> 10. Lecture for a Chinese Delegation (Jurriaan Bendien)
> 11. Riccardo's books (Jurriaan Bendien)
> 12. Re: Riccardo's books (Paul Zarembka)
> 13. Re: Riccardo's books (GERALD LEVY)
> 14. FWD: Riccardo's books (Paul Cockshott)
> 15. Re: Riccardo's books (christopher arthur)
> 16. Re: Lecture for a Chinese Delegation (Michael Perelman)
> 17. Re: Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
> (Michael Perelman)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:16:01 -0800
>From: "Paula" <Paula_cerni@msn.com>
>Subject: [OPE] better late than never
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>At least some on the left are taking the threats
>arising from the rapidly changing world order
>seriously:
>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/chin-d17.shtml
>
>and here are some interesting facts and figures on Japan-v-China:
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12015362
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>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:31:03 +1100
>From: Michael Webber <michaeljwebber@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] better late than never
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
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>but this one is more interesting:
>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/chin-d10.shtml
>michael
>
>On 18 December 2010 09:16, Paula <Paula_cerni@msn.com> wrote:
>> At least some on the left are taking the threats arising from the rapidly
> > changing world order seriously:
>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/chin-d17.shtml
>>
>> and here are some interesting facts and figures on Japan-v-China:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12015362
>>
>> Paula
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:23:30 +0100
>From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <jurriaanbendien@online.nl>
>Subject: [OPE] Krugman and the lessons of the financial crisis
>To: "Outline on Political Economy mailing list"
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>Paul Krugman concludes ("Wall Street Whitewash", NYT 16 December 2010) about
>the bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
>(http://www.fcic.gov/reports/):
>
>"In the end, those of us who expected the crisis to provide a teachable
>moment were right, but not in the way we expected. Never mind relearning the
>case for bank regulation; what we learned, instead, is what happens when an
>ideology backed by vast wealth and immense power confronts inconvenient
>facts. And the answer is, the facts lose."
>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/17/opinion/17krugman.html?hp
>
>The final report of the Commission is due to be officially released in
>January 2011. One might well ask, if even official government reports, by
>paid officials supposed to serve the public who paid their taxes, can no
>longer tell the truth, warts and all, because they are at loggerheads with
>each other and with what will wash in public opinion, what hope is there for
>economic science and the apparatus of government information on which it
>depends a great deal? One assumes that if it is a "whitewash", this in fact
>helps undermine the legitimacy of state power - a democracy despite the
>people, without the people... and against the people?!
>
>Well anyway it's probably vain to look to politicians and officials for a
>frank admission that they were mistaken. But that makes it even more
>difficult for people to believe in the political endeavour.
>
>Huffington Post (Dan Froomkin, "New Obama scientific integrity memo is late
>and vague", 17 December 2010) states "Nearly a year and a half after
>President Obama promised to issue guidelines to assure scientific integrity
>in the federal government, the White House on Friday sent out a skimpy
>four-page memo that lacks details, deadlines and enforcement mechanisms."
>"One of the central tensions in the Obama administration is a rhetorical
>commitment to transparency and a fanatical devotion to message control. And
>the two don't go together," suggested Jeff Ruch, executive director of
>Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, a whistleblower group."
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/new-obama-scientific-inte_n_798483.html
>
>Mr Bush's "faith-based science" seems to be only the tip of the iceberg -
>the larger the information streams, the more there is an attempt to control
>them with all kinds of filters.
>
>Jurriaan
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:19:51 -0800
>From: Michael Perelman <michael.perelman@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Message-ID:
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>The Chicago Board of Trade has underground tunnels to let the traders
>escape if farmers invaded the trading floor. Those farmers did not
>see wheat trade as perfect competition.
>
>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Jurriaan Bendien
><jurriaanbendien@online.nl> wrote:
>> There are certainly books on the wheat agribusiness. I usually advise
> > academics to consult the Library of Congress catalogue. Why? because it is
>> the largest English language collection there is, and the catalogue is well
>> structured. If you type in "wheat" you get about 4,000 titles, you can
>> refine this search with terms like "wheat market", "agribusiness" etc.
> > Oxbridge also has good catalogues.
>>
>> I also googled with terms like "political economy of the wheat market" and
>> got quite a few hits. I found for example a fairly recent blog by Steve
>> Suppan, policy analyst at the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
>> http://triplecrisis.com/speculation-and-the-new-commodity-price-crisis/
>>
>> I've used the example of a world market price for wheat in a wiki on ground
>> rent
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_and_Absolute_Ground_Rent It's only
>> an obscure topic though and gets only about 4,500 hits per year (not like
>> "commodity fetishism", which is more popular).
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Jurriaan
>>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:28:06 -0800
>From: "Paula" <Paula_cerni@msn.com>
>Subject: [OPE] lies and medical statistics
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>A fascinating piece from the Atlantic:
>http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
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>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 04:40:43 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
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>The case of the wheat market is relevant as an example of non-equilibrium
>markets, but from a theoretical point of view
>aiming to provide a general theory
>of market imperfections, we need to understand
>why neoclassical economists (and
>Marxists working on their ground) ?erroneously? postulate that in the long run
>the market would equalize the value of the physical marginal product to its
>price, reducing profits to zero.
>?
>Alternatively, most firms and economic agents
>may well behave like the owner of
>a mine, who hesitates to carry out the
>exploitation of the mine beyond the point
>of maximum average returns per unit of expenses when the expected rate of
>interest (which is normally the case) dictates
>that the net return from each ton
>removed in the present may be lesser than the value of the same staple removed
>at a minimum expense in the future.
>Consequently, what most firms endeavor to do
>is just to maximize average profit.
>?
>Most neoclassical economists reject this approach to how firms behave, but you
>can find a rich literature exploring this alternative among behavioral
>economists.
>?A. Agafonow
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>De: Anders Ekeland <anders.ekeland@online.no>
>Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>;
>Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Enviado: vie,17 diciembre, 2010 00:29
>Asunto: Re: [OPE] Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
>
>Hi Alejandro,
>
>I do not think there is a real-life example, but let me quote from
>Samuelson and Nordhaus text-book, 2010:
>
>"Adam Smith recognized that the virtues of the market mechanism are
>fully realized only when the checks and balances of perfect
>competition are present. What is meant by perfect competition? It is
>a technical term that refers to a market in which no firm or consumer
>is large enough to affect the market price. For example, the wheat
>market is perfectly competitive because the largest wheat farm,
>producing only a minuscule fraction of the world's wheat, can have no
>appreciable effect upon the price of wheat." (p. 35)
>
>Google "perfect competition" and wheat market - and see how wide
>spread the myth is.
>
>So I am looking for an article/book that refutes this myth.
>
>Regards
>Anders E
>
>
>
>At 14:33 16.12.2010, Alejandro Agafonow wrote:
>>But... What is the exasperation about...? There is no real-life
>>example, unless you consider the counterfactual propositions of
>>neoclassicals and Ian Write et.al. an answer...
>>
>>A. Agafonow
>>
>>
>>From: GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com>;
>>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>;
>>Subject: Re: [OPE] US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
>>Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 12:36:45 PM
>>
>>
>> > The myth is in many (most?) text-books, it even creeps
>> > into Stiglitz otherwise excellent "Nobel" prize lecture etc. etc.
>>
>>
>>Hi Anders:
>>
>>Most everything which is in one introductory economics text is in all
>>others! There? was a scholarly article published years ago which showed
>>basically that they all plagiarize each other! (Michael P would recall
>>the exact citation, I think, because he noted it previously).
>>
>>In any event, the reason it's in the texts is (I think) curious: if
>>you teach market structures, including perfect competition, then students
>>will ask for - and demand! - examples. I have my own way of dealing with
>>this: after going over the characteristics of a perfectly competitive
>>market, I ask _them_ for examples and tell that that whatever they suggest
>>I'll write on the board and we'll discuss afterwards. Then - one by one -
>>I'll explain to them in no uncertain terms why every single example
>>they gave is wrong. This will eventually lead them to ask (sometimes
>>with exasperation): what _is_ an example of perfect competition?? I
>>won't answer that question directly but it usually leads into a discussion
>>on the meaning of capitalist ideology.
>>
>>In solidarity, Jerry
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>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:59:26 -0800
>From: michael perelman <michael.perelman3@gmail.com>
>Subject: [OPE] Lecture for a Chinese Delegation
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
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>I am going to give a talk to a Chinese delegation. I have to write up
>the talk in advance for the participants to have a translation to read.
>
>Any comments would be appreciated.
>
>China presents a curious contradiction. Your country sees herself as a
>socialist state, yet the influence of Western, capitalist-oriented
>economics in the universities seems to be pervasive. Here in the United
>States, many people put great stock in what the economists have to say.
> Part of this authority comes from academic credentials; part comes
>from economists' ability to talk in pseudo-scientific terms.
>
>Yet, this style of economics has left a trail of failures for decades,
>culminating in the present economic crisis. In my book, The
>Confiscation of American Prosperity: From Right-Wing Extremism and
>Academic Economics to the next Great Depression, which came out just as
>the stock market peaked in 2007, I predicted that terrible consequences
>were sure to follow policies that academic economists were promoting.
>Fortunately, a Chinese translation is in the works.
>
>More at:
>
>http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/lecture-for-a-chinese-delegation/
>--
>Michael Perelman
>Economics Department
>California State University
>Chico, CA
>95929
>
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>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:20:44 +0100
>From: Anders Ekeland <anders.ekeland@online.no>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Message-ID: <201012181020.oBIAKifc021954@mail48.nsc.no>
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>
>Hi Michael,
>
>do you have any reference for this information, was the tunnels build
>specially for that purpose etc.
>
>Regards
>Anders
>
>At 03:19 18.12.2010, Michael Perelman wrote:
>>The Chicago Board of Trade has underground tunnels to let the traders
>>escape if farmers invaded the trading floor. Those farmers did not
>>see wheat trade as perfect competition.
>>
>>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Jurriaan Bendien
>><jurriaanbendien@online.nl> wrote:
>> > There are certainly books on the wheat agribusiness. I usually advise
>> > academics to consult the Library of Congress catalogue. Why? because it is
>> > the largest English language collection
>>there is, and the catalogue is well
>> > structured. If you type in "wheat" you get about 4,000 titles, you can
>> > refine this search with terms like "wheat market", "agribusiness" etc.
>> > Oxbridge also has good catalogues.
>> >
>> > I also googled with terms like "political economy of the wheat market" and
>> > got quite a few hits. I found for example a fairly recent blog by Steve
>> > Suppan, policy analyst at the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
>> > http://triplecrisis.com/speculation-and-the-new-commodity-price-crisis/
>> >
>> > I've used the example of a world market
>>price for wheat in a wiki on ground
>> > rent
>> >
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_and_Absolute_Ground_Rent It's only
>> > an obscure topic though and gets only about 4,500 hits per year (not like
>> > "commodity fetishism", which is more popular).
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > Jurriaan
>> >
>> >
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>>Economics Department
>>California State University
>>Chico, CA 95929
>>530-898-5321
>>fax 530-898-5901
>>www.michaelperelman.wordpress.com
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>Message: 9
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:49:48 +0100
>From: GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com>
>Subject: [OPE] Fantasy and Science Fiction for Socialists
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Message-ID: <SNT117-W19257196494729A3A28470BB170@phx.gbl>
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>
>I saw this link on Facebook and that I'd pass it along in case some of you are
>interested.
>
>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/12/15/50-works-of-fantasy-science-fiction-for-socialists/
>
>"Fifty Fantasy and Science Fiction Works that Socialists Should Read"
>
>by China Mieville, a British socialist and science fiction author.
>
>In solidarity, Jerry
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:09:41 +0100
>From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <jurriaanbendien@online.nl>
>Subject: [OPE] Lecture for a Chinese Delegation
>To: "Outline on Political Economy mailing list"
> <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Message-ID: <F9522A5E27D84BD2AE708D6FF7005EA5@JurriaanshomePC>
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>You could get them to read, beyond your own books, Ha-Joon Chang's "23
>Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism"?
>
>J.
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:36:36 +0100
>From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <jurriaanbendien@online.nl>
>Subject: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>To: "Outline on Political Economy mailing list"
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>I wonder if Haymarket could bring out cheap paperback editions of the
>English-language volumes edited by Riccardo Bellofiore, or more
>specifically, the collections of essays edited by Chris Arthur and Riccardo
>on Capital Vol 1, 2 and 3?
>
>I cannot afford $130 or $170 for these books. The University of Amsterdam
>has NO titles edited by Riccardo, nor does the Royal Library. Erasmus
>University has only Riccardo's book on Minsky.
>
>Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can read this books ?!
>
>Jurriaan
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:59:15 -0500
>From: Paul Zarembka <zarembka@buffalo.edu>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
>Message-ID: <4D0CBE33.90200@buffalo.edu>
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>What kind of attack is this? Editors do not set prices, publishers do.
>Libraries order books, not editors. What are the "secrets"? What
>"Marxist elite" are you talking about?
>
>The RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY can be attacked with a such charge as
>yours against Riccardo's edited books. I am helpless to do anything
>about it (except being able to get Volume 23 into a cheap paperback
>edition, only because of the widespread interest in the topic). Do you
>want us to stop publishing?
>
>Your turn of phrase is rather amazing, Jurriaan.
>
>Paul
>
>=====
>(V23) HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11, Seven Stories Press, 2nd ed. softcover
>(V24) TRANSITIONS IN LATIN AMERICA (V25) WHY CAPITALISM SURVIVES CRISES
>(V26) THE NATIONAL QUESTION AND THE QUESTION OF CRISIS
>====> Research in Political Economy, Emerald Group, Bingley, UK
>====> P.Zarembka, ed., www.emeraldinsight.com/books.htm?issn=0161-7230
>.
>
>
>On 12/18/2010 8:36 AM, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
>> Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can read this books ?!
>>
>>
>
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:43:43 +0100
>From: GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
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>
>Hi Paul Z:
>
>Well, Jurriaan did qualify that sentence significantly by writing
>'seems like' and finishing it with a question mark. And, the point
>of his post was to ask that these volumes be published as paperbacks
>so he could afford to obtain and read them.
>
>I wouldn't describe that as an attack on Riccardo (I only
>wish that many thousands of others would attack him because they
>also want to read his writings and volumes he edited) but rather
>an off-said general frustration with the rising costs of scholarly
>publications.
>
>It's the holiday season - shouldn't we be giving each other the benefit
>of a doubt?
>
>In solidarity, Jerry
>
>
>> Your turn of phrase is rather amazing, Jurriaan.
>>> Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can
>>>read this books ?!
>>>
>
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>Message: 14
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:14:35 +0000
>From: Paul Cockshott <William.Cockshott@glasgow.ac.uk>
>Subject: [OPE] FWD: Riccardo's books
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>From: "Paul Cockshott" <William.Cockshott@glasgow.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>Date: 18th December 2010
>Time: 3:13:01 pm
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>
>I was shocked by the price Routledge wanted for
>our latest book. A deal like Bichler had which
>allows web publication after two years may be an
>idea.
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>From: "Paul Zarembka" <zarembka@buffalo.edu>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>Date: 18th December 2010
>Time: 2:13:27 pm
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>
>What kind of attack is this? Editors do not set prices, publishers do.
>Libraries order books, not editors. What are the "secrets"? What
>"Marxist elite" are you talking about?
>
>The RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY can be attacked with a such charge as
>yours against Riccardo's edited books. I am helpless to do anything
>about it (except being able to get Volume 23 into a cheap paperback
>edition, only because of the widespread interest in the topic). Do you
>want us to stop publishing?
>
>Your turn of phrase is rather amazing, Jurriaan.
>
>Paul
>
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>(V23) HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11, Seven Stories Press, 2nd ed. softcover
>(V24) TRANSITIONS IN LATIN AMERICA (V25) WHY CAPITALISM SURVIVES CRISES
>(V26) THE NATIONAL QUESTION AND THE QUESTION OF CRISIS
>====> Research in Political Economy, Emerald Group, Bingley, UK
>====> P.Zarembka, ed., www.emeraldinsight.com/books.htm?issn=0161-7230
>.
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>On 12/18/2010 8:36 AM, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
>> Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can read this books ?!
>>
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>Message: 15
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:33:12 +0000
>From: christopher arthur <arthurcj@waitrose.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
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>The Palgrave books concerned are
>
>The Constitution of Capital: Essays on Volume 1
>of Capital eds. Bellofiore and Taylor
>The Circulation of Capital: Essays on Volume 2
>of Capital eds Arthur and Reuten
>The Culmination of Capital: Essays on Volume 3
>of Capital eds Campbell and Reuten
>
>As people say we authors do not get any say. But
>it would be good for Libraries to get this set,
>for potential readers to put pressure on
>publishers to keep them in print and secure a
>paperback.
>Chris A
>
>christopher j. arthur
>arthurcj@waitrose.com
>http://www.chrisarthur.net/
>
>
>
>
>On 18 Dec 2010, at 13:36, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
>
>> I wonder if Haymarket could bring out cheap paperback editions of the
>> English-language volumes edited by Riccardo Bellofiore, or more
>> specifically, the collections of essays edited by Chris Arthur and Riccardo
>> on Capital Vol 1, 2 and 3?
>>
>> I cannot afford $130 or $170 for these books. The University of Amsterdam
>> has NO titles edited by Riccardo, nor does the Royal Library. Erasmus
>> University has only Riccardo's book on Minsky.
>>
>> Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can read this books ?!
>>
>> Jurriaan
>>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:34:11 -0800
>From: Michael Perelman <michael.perelman@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Lecture for a Chinese Delegation
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>Yes, I like his work.
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>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Jurriaan Bendien
><jurriaanbendien@online.nl> wrote:
>> You could get them to read, beyond your own books, Ha-Joon Chang's "23
>> Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism"?
>>
>> J.
>>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:03:16 -0800
>From: Michael Perelman <michael.perelman@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Asunto: US wheat market - perfectly competitive?
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>Dan McCurrey, who lived in Chicago and studied agrarian radicalism,
>told me. He used to write for In These Times. If you locate him, let
>me know.
>
>I do trust him as a source.
>
>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Anders Ekeland
><anders.ekeland@online.no> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> do you have any reference for this information, was the tunnels build
>> specially for that purpose etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Anders
>>
>> At 03:19 18.12.2010, Michael Perelman wrote:
>>>The Chicago Board of Trade has underground tunnels to let the traders
>>>escape if farmers invaded the trading floor. ?Those farmers did not
>>>see wheat trade as perfect competition.
>>>
>>>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Jurriaan Bendien
>>><jurriaanbendien@online.nl> wrote:
>>> > There are certainly books on the wheat agribusiness. I usually advise
>>> > academics to consult the Library of
>>>Congress catalogue. Why? because it is
>>> > the largest English language collection
>>>there is, and the catalogue is well
>>> > structured. If you type in "wheat" you get about 4,000 titles, you can
>>> > refine this search with terms like "wheat market", "agribusiness" etc.
>>> > Oxbridge also has good catalogues.
>>> >
>>> > I also googled with terms like "political
>>>economy of the wheat market" and
>>> > got quite a few hits. I found for example a fairly recent blog by Steve
>>> > Suppan, policy analyst at the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
>>> > http://triplecrisis.com/speculation-and-the-new-commodity-price-crisis/
>>> >
>>> > I've used the example of a world market
>>>price for wheat in a wiki on ground
>>> > rent
>>> >
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_and_Absolute_Ground_Rent
>>>It's only
>>> > an obscure topic though and gets only about 4,500 hits per year (not like
>>> > "commodity fetishism", which is more popular).
>>> >
>>> > Hope this helps,
>>> >
>>> > Jurriaan
>>> >
>>> >
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>Message: 18
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:43:55 -0000
>From: "paul bullock" <paulbullock@ebms-ltd.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>To: "'Outline on Political Economy mailing list'"
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>If you are all so 'shocked' at publishers prices why not simply publish free
>online? You undermine your own position by signing contracts then
>complaining about the result.
>
>
>
>PBl
>
>
>
>From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu [mailto:ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu]
>On Behalf Of christopher arthur
>Sent: 18 December 2010 15:33
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>Subject: Re: [OPE] Riccardo's books
>
>
>
>The Palgrave books concerned are
>
>
>
>The Constitution of Capital: Essays on Volume 1 of Capital eds. Bellofiore
>and Taylor
>
>The Circulation of Capital: Essays on Volume 2 of Capital eds Arthur and
>Reuten
>
>The Culmination of Capital: Essays on Volume 3 of Capital eds Campbell and
>Reuten
>
>
>
>As people say we authors do not get any say. But it would be good for
>Libraries to get this set, for potential readers to put pressure on
>publishers to keep them in print and secure a paperback.
>
>Chris A
>
>
>
>christopher j. arthur
>
>arthurcj@waitrose.com
>
>http://www.chrisarthur.net/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 18 Dec 2010, at 13:36, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>I wonder if Haymarket could bring out cheap paperback editions of the
>English-language volumes edited by Riccardo Bellofiore, or more
>specifically, the collections of essays edited by Chris Arthur and Riccardo
>on Capital Vol 1, 2 and 3?
>
>I cannot afford $130 or $170 for these books. The University of Amsterdam
>has NO titles edited by Riccardo, nor does the Royal Library. Erasmus
>University has only Riccardo's book on Minsky.
>
>Seems like only a secret Marxist elite can read this books ?!
>
>Jurriaan
>
>
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