Re: [OPE] Marx on the U.S. Civil War

Well they didn’t get a divorce ;-)

paul

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Paul B.

I am not much concerned about the difference between Marx and Engels, and do
not share Jerry's formulation that Engels departed from Marx. Rather, Marx
wrote a private comment to Engels and I entirely recognize that Engels may
have said to himself or out loud "Moor, you are right as I was a bit
superficial". We all learn from dialogue with others don't we?

Nevertheless, I would prefer to know, than not know, if some of Marx's
published pieces on the Civil War were written/drafted by Engels. Nor more
than presuming a married couple as thinking the same, should we so presume
such of Marx and Engels.

Paul Z.

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On 2/6/2011 4:27 PM, paul bullock wrote:

Without wishing to state the obvious, if Engels drafted articles and they
were published under Marx’s name I imagine that Marx read them before they
were sent off, and approved. Engels was such a stickler for clarity and
correctness with respect to work with Marx ( before and after Marx passed
away) that anything else is unimaginable.

I wonder what the purpose of this is? The usual revisionist stuff is to
drive a wedge between them, so to take Marx in a ‘purified’ (and
consequently thoroughly bourgeois individualistic style ) somewhere he
almost certainly wouldn’t have wanted to go.

Paul B

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Subject: Re: [OPE] Marx on the U.S. Civil War

Dogan,

The list of articles in the English edition of International Publishers,
1984, is at

www.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/marx/works/cw/volume19/index.htm

I checked against my printed copy and the titles, authors, and page numbers
are the same, but only some of articles are linked at this on-line site
(those underlined).

Unless someone else wants to get involved, I think we can move this research
off the OPE list.

Thanks, Paul Z.

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(V26) THE NATIONAL QUESTION AND THE QUESTION OF CRISIS
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====> P.Zarembka, ed., www.emeraldinsight.com/books.htm?issn=0161-7230
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On 1/31/2011 8:46 AM, D. Göçmen wrote:

Paul,
it will take days to prepare a synopsis for what ask for.
Most of the writings on the subject are collected in Marx-Engels-Werke
(MEW), vol. 15.
Writings collected in this volume show either Engels or Marx or both
Marx/Engels as autor.
What we might do is to have a list of the titles in English (vol. 19) and
compare it with the MEW edition.
However, there seems to be a problem with this. The editors point out that
some of the papers were not signed when they were published. These papers
may have been put under both Marx's and Engels' name. The editors of
"Marx/Engels: Civil War in United States" (Verlag Marxistische Blaetter,
1976) in German prefer (as the editor of MEW) to talk of both at the same
time. So this matter seems to be complicated one. But it seems to be
possible to clarfy the autorship of some of the papers at least.
What do you think, how can we proceed?
All the best,
Dogan

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Subject: [OPE] Marx on the U.S. Civil War

Marx-Engels Collected Works, Volume 19, includes writings on the U.S.
 
 
Civil War. However, I understand that many articles on military affairs
 
 
were written by Engels although published under Marx's name.
 
 
 
 
 
Does anyone have a synopsis of which articles on the U.S. Civil War
 
 
published under Marx's name were written or largely written by Engels?
 
 
 
 
 
Paul Z.
 
 
 
 
 

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