OK Andrew, I'll see if I can live up to that. I might add that it would be quite possible to characterise my approach to Marx as "temporal single system" too--since I don't see value and price categories as independent (let alone see value as superfluous), and all my mathematical work is in dynamics. Where I differ, of course, is on the premise that labor is the only source of value. Cheers, Steve At 02:01 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote: >In OPE-L 3905, Steve Keen wrote: > >: However, one side effect of this is that I am also a stickler for doing >: dynamics properly. I have grave doubts that TSS would pass this test; I >: will confirm or rebut that opinion after reading Andrew's 1999 ROPE >paper >: and the 1996 Freeman/Carchedi book, however--I don't see any point in >: debating this issue just yet. > > >OK. All I will ask is that you evaluate the examples, demonstrations, >etc. in terms of their aims and results as stated in the texts. A >frequent criticism is that various works in the temporal single-system >interpretation of Marx's value theory are bad models, not really dynamic >models, poorly constructed dynamic models, etc. Such criticisms miss the >mark, because what are construed to be models are not in fact models. If >one is attempting to prove possibility where impossibility has been >alleged, or non-necessity where necessity has been alleged, then even one >single counterexample, no matter how contrived and unrealistic, is >sufficient. Generally, it is counterexamples of this sort that have been >misconstrued as models. > >The underlying reason for the misattribution is this. >Simultaneist-physicalists have a single theory. Therefore, any >differences between them with rerspect to conclusions stem from >differences in their models (i.e., assumptions). They have assumed that >this must also be true of TSS works, so they criticize the conclusions by >criticizing the particular assumptions of the "models" (examples, >illustrations). But our conclusions in fact differ from their own >conclusions under almost any assumptions, any "models," because the >*theory* of determination of value is different. > > >Andrew Kliman > > Dr. Steve Keen Senior Lecturer Economics & Finance University of Western Sydney Macarthur Building 11 Room 30, Goldsmith Avenue, Campbelltown PO Box 555 Campbelltown NSW 2560 Australia s.keen@uws.edu.au 61 2 4620-3016 Fax 61 2 4626-6683 Home 02 9558-8018 Mobile 0409 716 088 Home Page: http://bus.macarthur.uws.edu.au/steve-keen/
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