In reply to OPE-L 4203. John wrote: "Let's also assume that the total living labor involved as the machines transfer their value is L. ... L is thus what you call the 'operating profit.'" Only if, in addition, you-know-what is very, very you-know-what. (Let's do so.) As for the rest, I'm confused. I say the total value of output would be 4V + L. You say (for purposes of discussion? in real life?) it would be 5V + (L - V). Since 4V + L = 5V + (L - V), I don't see where we differ. I realize that different expressions for the same thing can have different connotations, but I don't really even see different connotations clearly here. It seems that you're saying that the value of the 5th machine *would be* transferred to the output, except that it is wasted and must be written off. That's what I'm saying as well. Help. Andrew Kliman
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