I think you will find Arun Bose's argument on this front more substantive than you currently believe. Also check Marx in Theories of Surplus Value on the value of raw commodities: "Ricardo never uses the word value for utility or usefulness or "value in use". Does he therefore mean to say that the "compensation" is paid to the owner of the quarries and coalmines for the "value" the coal and stone have before they are removed from the quarry and the mine--in their original state? Then he invalidates his entire doctrine of value. Or does value mean here, as it must do, the possible use-value and hence the prospective exchange-value of coal or stone?" (Marx 1861 Part II, p. 249) I suggest that it would be rather hard to interpret Marx's statement here in a manner which makes it consistent with your statement. Cheers, Steve At 04:07 AM 5/24/01 Thursday, you wrote: >On Wed, 23 May 2001, Rakesh Narpat Bhandari wrote: > > > >If you believe that commodities can be resolved into labour and > > >labour alone, then you believe in magic. > > > > But Steve no one is saying that; of course there will remain some > > natural residue which is not objectified labor. Marx never said > > otherwise. In fact in both Capital 1 and the the Critique of the > > Gotha Programme he emphasized that wealth is the product of both > > labor and nature...as you surely know > >Agreed. The non-labour residue is composed of the materials supplied >gratis by nature, which are crucial to a commodity's use-value but >have no bearing on its value. > >Allin. Home Page: http://www.debunking-economics.com http://bus.uws.edu.au/steve-keen/ http://www.stevekeen.net Dr. Steve Keen Senior Lecturer Economics & Finance Campbelltown, Building 11 Room 30, School of Economics and Finance UNIVERSITY WESTERN SYDNEY LOCKED BAG 1797 PENRITH SOUTH DC NSW 1797 Australia s.keen@uws.edu.au 61 2 4620-3016 Fax 61 2 4626-6683 Home 02 9558-8018 Mobile 0409 716 088
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