[OPE-L:5735] Re: RE: Re: why are we on this list?

From: Rakesh Narpat Bhandari (rakeshb@Stanford.EDU)
Date: Fri Jun 01 2001 - 16:08:13 EDT


Gary,
if you are listening, i am going to repeat something which I have 
said ad nauseum on this list, but I will present it as a critique of 
Garegnani on
Ricardo and Marx.

let's even accept the dogma that the inputs are in the form of values.
what is surprising is that garegnani acutely lays out how ricardo's 
critique of adding up theories was developed by marx [there can be no 
doubt that Marx is not possible without Ricardo's success on this 
quantitative front; it is the qualitative aspect of the 
(mis-)representation  of value by way of another commodity which 
Ricardo does not understand--thus his failure to grasp both money and 
the possibility of general crisis: of this garegnani says nothing, 
allowing Gary to claim that Marx was interested in the same problems 
as Ricardo],

At any rate, having laid out the centrality of the adding up 
critique,  Garegnani then assumes that in the transformation problem 
there should be two invariance conditions. but this makes no sense.

If we are not changing the labor time objectified in the output (nor 
the value of money--and Garegnani does seem like Ricardo to hold it 
constant in his analysis), then it follows from the critique of 
adding up theories that any modification in cost price consequent on 
the the transformation of the inputs from simple prices to prices of 
production means that surplus value has to move in the inverse 
direction. There is no other way for cost price and surplus value to 
remain resolved, antagonistic components of the total value that per 
the critique of adding up theories is given and fixed before 
distribution.

The mass of surplus value has to be modified in inverse direction to 
cost price once the value of money is fixed. And Garegnani does seem 
to assume that it is. Now Allin and Ajit may want to raise questions 
about this, but Garegnani, following Ricardo, allows the value of 
money to be constant in the transformation.

  Simply put, it follows from the critique of the adding up theories 
which is so profoundly understood by Garegnani that the mass of 
surplus value cannot be held invariant while the cost price for the 
production of a commodity output in which the same quantity of labor 
is objectified is being modified.

Garegnani thus repeats the two dogmas of the transformation problem: 
that the inputs are in the form of values or simple prices and that 
if they are in this form there should be two invariance conditions in 
the complete transformation problem.

It just speaks to how profound the pressure to bury Marx is that 
Garegnani can lay out Marx's development of the critique of the 
adding up theory and then immediately go on to stipulate that there 
should be two invariance conditions without even noting that the 
invariance of the mass of surplus value cannot be allowed once the 
critique of adding up theories is recognized.

Rakesh



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