Jerry proposes an unbelievably retrograte step. No-one of any professional status can possibly participate in a list in which private correspondence is circulated. It is already a major violation of professional confidence that Jerry has cited from a second private letter which I never gave him any permission to circulate. Quite apart from anything else it is a complete violation of Jerry's own principle that discussion on list members takes place offlist. This has always seemed to me a reasonably sensible principle precisely because it prevents a discussion on questions of theory descending into personal charges and accusations - which, everyone keeps saying, is what we want to move on from. The whole point is that once one initiates or retails a public charge against an individual, one starts the downhill process. Exactly the same principle applies to the publication of a frank but private exchange of views in which individuals may well be discussed. I am perfectly willing to supply the letter and discuss in private with any individual that asks becauses there is nothing in it I would not defend, and that is the way these things should be done. I have absolutely no intention whatsoever in taking part in any forum in which private correspondence is circulated without my permission. The REAL issue at stake as always is that we have to move on from the discussion of individuals and their behaviour, to discussion of the theories that they hold. It is for that reason that it is in everyone's interest that no obstacles are placed in the way of individuals taking part in discussion above general respect for the rules of professional collaboration, and that discussion of personal characteristics and behaviour are kept where they belong: off-list and with respect for the normal rules of privacy. Alan [Alan Freeman] -----Original Message----- From: owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu [mailto:owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of gerald_a_levy Sent: 08 March 2002 12:49 To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu Subject: [OPE-L:6672] *Internal Discussion Document Available* I received what I view as an extremely important document for the list. It was sent to me by mistake by a listmember but since the author went on to write that I *could* make it available to the list ("You can do what you like with it as far as I'm concerned because there is nothing in it I wouldn't repeat in public if asked") I have decided to do so. To satisfy a concern of the author I will delete the names and e-mail addresses of the 3 other listmembers to whom his message was sent. Also, I will advise listmembers now that the intended recipient of his e-mail can not be held responsible for the malicious statements and *threats against the list* by the author and his clique. However, in the best interests of the list, I have decided to make this document available to each listmember *off-list*: i.e. if you wish to view this document -- which I strongly encourage -- then I will forward it to you *upon request*. In solidarity, Jerry
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