From: gerald_a_levy (gerald_a_levy@msn.com)
Date: Mon Nov 18 2002 - 20:01:15 EST
Re: [OPE-L:8013] Re: Re: Re: Re: Robert BrennerRe the exchange between Paul B and Rakesh (see excerpts below): I would suggest a third position. I agree with Rakesh that the capitalist system must be conceptualized in a 'holistic' sense but agree with Paul that the reality of nation states must also be grasped. Here's an outline of _a_ way of conceptualizing capitalism as a totality: I. *Simple unity* At the level of analysis of 'capital in general' there is simple unity within both the capitalist class and the working class. This is an abstraction, however, which doesn't grasp other necessary moments in a comprehension of capitalism as a totality, e.g. it doesn't grasp class subjectivity and divisions, the state, trade, or the world market and crisis. II. *Diversity* Here capital is divided within separate national states with sovereignty. We see then that there is not only competition by individual capitals but also rivalry among nation states. The relation between national capitals and nation-states is framed by uneven development (highlighted by Lenin) or uneven and combined development (if you prefer Trotsky's formulation). Capital-in-diversity gives rise to (and/or perpetuates) nationalism and hence national chauvinism. Other forms of class divisions -- including those within the working-class -- must also be grasped. III. *Unity-In-Diversity* *Only here* can capitalism be grasped as a totality. Here this totality is comprehended more than just one-sidedly as 'simple unity' (a conception sometimes held by those who advance the thesis of 'globalization') or one-sidedly as diversity (which Rakesh perhaps warns against). Only when the 'world market and crisis' is grasped can the puzzle be pieced together in its entirety. We observe here other trends: e.g. the increasing international concentration and centralization of capital brings about multinational corporations (or transnational corporations, if you prefer) which both subsist with and come into conflict with individual states. Also, the bonding together of individual states for mutual economic protection and advantage -- thus the creation of 'regional trade associations' such as the European Union, which subsists with and comes into conflict with other nation-states, federations, and units of international capital. Also, the changing relation between expanding capitalist social relations on a global scale and the persistence of pre-capitalist relations and the 'drive' by the working-class towards the 'new historic form'. The world market, Marx tells us in the _Grundrisse_ is: "the conclusion, in which production is posited as a totality together with all its moments, but within which, at the same time, all contradictions come into play. The world market then, again, forms the presupposition of the whole as well as the substratum. Crises are then, the general intimation which points beyond the presupposition, and the urge which drives towards the adoption of the new historic form" (Penguin edition, pp. 227-28) This conclusion is consistent with Paul B's emphasis in [8010] that imperialism, anti-imperialism, worker internationalism and revolution must all be grasped together. Paul and Rakesh and others: [other than being very abstract, but no more abstract I think than Rakesh's 8019 and Paul's 8021], what is wrong with the above? In solidarity, Jerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From Paul B's [8021]: > I have always been a 'holist' in that sense and I have no doubt that Spinoza was a great influence on Marx there. But the social relation requires enforcement, and the extension of that enforcement has taken the form of replications of the 'nation state model' ( even where there were many 'nations' incorporated in a State) by the bourgeoisie as it has advanced and conquered previous social systems. One cannot ignore the reality of the state, or the conflict of the most powerful capitalists shielding behind the most expensive and powerful state machinery. Neverthless 'the relation itself ' is the 'prius' when understanding the general issues.< >From Rakesh's [8019]: > Re 8013: > Perhaps Rakesh you could explain how anti imperialism excludes 'worker internationalism' ? It need not. I was trying to get at another point: capital as global social relation is more than a mere aggregate of national economies which impinge on each other. Anti imperialist discourse seems to take as the fundamental unit of analysis the national economy; one national economy dominates another through for example the export of capital. As biological reductionists such as John Maynard Smith tend to view the organism as the nothing more than a site for intragenomic conflict, I am saying that Marxists often seem to undertand the world capitalist market as nothing but the site for conflict among capitalist nations. But the organism of capital as a global social relation has ontological and conceptual priority over the apparently self subsistent national economies out of which it is composed. In short, I am making a rather weak suggestion for a kind of holism in the analysis of the capitalist system. Cyrus Bina and John Holloway have also argued for a kind of holism though on different grounds. <
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