From: Paul Bullock (paulbullock@EBMS-LTD.CO.UK)
Date: Thu Apr 20 2006 - 17:12:29 EDT
David,
You will see that Engels was really quite a biblical scholar ( see Vol 2
CW, on Joshua, Pietism,Ecclestiastical controversy, on Schelling, Bruno
Bauer etc etc ) well before the German Ideology and your deductions are
undoubtedly correct. I am always astonished at those who try to run down
poor Fred, and who are all by far his intellectual inferior.
Cheers
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: <dlaibman@JJAY.CUNY.EDU>
To: <OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Help! Marx Quote
> Once more, thanks to Allin (and Google!).
>
> Although the biblical citation appears first in *The German Ideology*,
> it re-emerges later in *Anti-Duhring* and also in Engels'
> correspondence, so I think we can assume it originated with Engels,
> not Marx. It appears first in a jointly authored work; this is
> interesting in that it shows that the joint works by M and E were
> indeed *co*-authored; that Engels' name was not simply attached to
> Marx's writings.
>
> Opposition to rigid antitheses ("metaphysics") does not exhaustively
> describe the dialectic -- but this is another story altogether.
>
> Best to all,
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@WFU.EDU>
> Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:42 pm
> Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Help! Marx Quote
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, dlaibman@JJAY.CUNY.EDU wrote:
> >
> > > As usual, when I need a remembered quote from Marx, it is not
> > > (apparently) where I thought it would be, in this case in one of
> > > the Prefaces to Capital I.
> > > The quote (from memory): "What all these gentlemen lack is
> > > dialectic. Their communication is 'yea, yea, nay, nay, and
> > > whatsoever cometh not of these cometh of evil.'"
> >
> > This Biblical tag is quoted in Lenin's "What the 'Friends of the
> > People' Are and How They Fight the Social-Democrats"
> >
> > http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1894/friends/06.htm
> >
> > A citation of it is also attributed to Engels, by Alan Woods
> >
> > http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/marxists_and_venezuela.html
> >
> > but without any specific bibliographical information.
> >
> > This information comes from a Google search on the keywords in
> > your quotation, with "Marx" appended. The fact that no text by
> > Marx shows up in the first page or two of Google hits, when Marx's
> > works are well archived and accessible to Google's robots,
> > suggests that it does not appear in his published works.
> >
> > Allin Cottrell
> >
>
>
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