From: Michael Perelman (michael@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU)
Date: Thu Apr 20 2006 - 18:13:24 EDT
Didn't his father force him to study the Bible?
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:12:29PM +0100, Paul Bullock wrote:
> David,
>
> You will see that Engels was really quite a biblical scholar ( see Vol 2
> CW, on Joshua, Pietism,Ecclestiastical controversy, on Schelling, Bruno
> Bauer etc etc ) well before the German Ideology and your deductions are
> undoubtedly correct. I am always astonished at those who try to run down
> poor Fred, and who are all by far his intellectual inferior.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dlaibman@JJAY.CUNY.EDU>
> To: <OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Help! Marx Quote
>
>
> > Once more, thanks to Allin (and Google!).
> >
> > Although the biblical citation appears first in *The German Ideology*,
> > it re-emerges later in *Anti-Duhring* and also in Engels'
> > correspondence, so I think we can assume it originated with Engels,
> > not Marx. It appears first in a jointly authored work; this is
> > interesting in that it shows that the joint works by M and E were
> > indeed *co*-authored; that Engels' name was not simply attached to
> > Marx's writings.
> >
> > Opposition to rigid antitheses ("metaphysics") does not exhaustively
> > describe the dialectic -- but this is another story altogether.
> >
> > Best to all,
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@WFU.EDU>
> > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:42 pm
> > Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Help! Marx Quote
> > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, dlaibman@JJAY.CUNY.EDU wrote:
> > >
> > > > As usual, when I need a remembered quote from Marx, it is not
> > > > (apparently) where I thought it would be, in this case in one of
> > > > the Prefaces to Capital I.
> > > > The quote (from memory): "What all these gentlemen lack is
> > > > dialectic. Their communication is 'yea, yea, nay, nay, and
> > > > whatsoever cometh not of these cometh of evil.'"
> > >
> > > This Biblical tag is quoted in Lenin's "What the 'Friends of the
> > > People' Are and How They Fight the Social-Democrats"
> > >
> > > http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1894/friends/06.htm
> > >
> > > A citation of it is also attributed to Engels, by Alan Woods
> > >
> > > http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/marxists_and_venezuela.html
> > >
> > > but without any specific bibliographical information.
> > >
> > > This information comes from a Google search on the keywords in
> > > your quotation, with "Marx" appended. The fact that no text by
> > > Marx shows up in the first page or two of Google hits, when Marx's
> > > works are well archived and accessible to Google's robots,
> > > suggests that it does not appear in his published works.
> > >
> > > Allin Cottrell
> > >
> >
> >
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
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