Re: [OPE-L] Kommunistische Zeitschrift

From: Christopher Arthur (arthurcj@WAITROSE.COM)
Date: Tue Aug 22 2006 - 13:35:12 EDT


Ernesto.

There are major doubts about it because, like most of the journal, the
piece is unsigned as your sources should have said.
Although I do not have Riazanov I recall clearly that he made no
suggestion that M or E might have authored any part of it. (Has it been
reprinted I wonder.)
In sum, eminent scholars from Russia, Germany (MEW), and the USA, have
failed to make such an attribution. If your sources have proof this is
very important and should be made widely known. What do they say on
this? what text did they translate from?
Unfortunately the relevant volume of new MEGA is not out I believe.
As to 'influence', a quick scan of Draper's Chronicle suggests to me
Wolff, Marx and Engels, were all in Brussels at the relevant time, so
one can speculate.....

Chris

On 22 Aug 2006, at 16:22, Ernesto Screpanti wrote:

>  Chris,
>
>  thank you very much for the information about Ryazanoff's edition.
>  As to attribution to Marx and Engels, I did not immagine there were
> doubts on it. Both the Italian and the French edition do this
> attribution.
>  Who knows who is right?
>  Perhaps the MEGA3 edition clarifies the question. Does anybody know
> if this Introduction is included in it?
>
>  Ernesto
>
>  At 12.18 22/08/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>
> Ernesto
>  Why do you think they wrote it? I think it is highly unlikely.
>  1. MECW would have included it, but they content themselves in the
> note by saying that M&E's influence in the journal contents can be
> detected.
>  2. Draper does not mention it
>  3. The editor was Wolff so he probably wrote it.
>  4. A piece attacking Cabet's emigration plan has previously been
> wrongly attributed to Marx. It was probably by Schapper.
>  5. There would be no reason for M&E to write together despite the one
> off commission to do the CM which happened shortly thereafter.
>  6. M and E, separately, were active publishing during this period but
> they did so in the Deutsche Brusseler Zeitung, a communist journal
> edited by Bornstadt, very understandably since Marx was living there
> and E in Paris.
>  7. There is an English translation of the whole journal in D
> Ryazanoff *The communist Manifesto of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels*
> (London martin Lawrence 1930) Appendix. I don't have it to hand so I
> cannot report his editorial view.
>  8. Incidentally the epigraph to the journal was Workers of the world
> unite - the first public appearance of this slogan.
>  Chris A
>
>  On 21 Aug 2006, at 14:09, Ernesto Screpanti wrote:
>
>
>  Does anybody know if there is an English translation of Marx's and
> Engels' Introduction to 'Kommunistische Zeitschrift", n.1, London,
> September 1847?
>  This journal was an organ of the Leage of Communists. But only n. 1
> came out.
>  Marx and Engels Introduction is very important from a political point
> of view, because they criticise certain autoritarian doctrines of
> communism.
>  I found an Italian and a French translation, but not an English
> version, not even in the MECW. Who knows if there is one?
>
>  Ernesto Screpanti
>
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