Re: [OPE] English-German translations? Erfurt Programme

From: Doğan Göçmen (
Date: Mon Jul 21 2008 - 12:56:09 EDT

 Yes, Jerry is missing the point. The Erfurt Programme has two parts: Maximum (revolution) and Minimum (reform) Programme. The first part describes in a more general sense the long term aim(s). The Minimum programme has in turn two parts. First part has 10 aims to be implemented to improve the quality of social life in general - not just administration. The second part aims to improve work conditions of working classes. So it is not state centred at all.


Doğan Göçmen
Author of The Adam Smith Problem:
Reconciling Human Nature and Society in
The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations,
I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007



-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Cockshott <>
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <>
Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:46
Subject: RE: [OPE] English-German translations? Erfurt Programme

That is not the issue here, it relates to election of judges which
was in the RSDLP programme ( based on Erfurt programme )

Paul Cockshott
Dept of Computing Science
University of Glasgow
+44 141 330 1629

-----Original Message-----
From: on behalf of GERALD LEVY
Sent: Mon 7/21/2008 3:45 PM
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list
Subject: RE: [OPE] English-German translations? Erfurt Programme

> Ok so Bertrand Russell mistranslated it as Magistrate, it sounds more> as if 
they were demanding that the civil service be
Hi Paul C and others:
I think that's consistent with the state (no pun intended) of German Social 
Democracy at the time - which was very 'state-centered'  both in its programme
for actions and in its vision of socialism.  When this (state-centered) 
was first adopted by the SPD (and to what it extent it was influenced 
by Engels)  is another question.
In solidarity, Jerry 


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