From: Doğan Göçmen (dogangoecmen@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 21 2008 - 12:56:09 EDT
Yes, Jerry is missing the point. The Erfurt Programme has two parts: Maximum (revolution) and Minimum (reform) Programme. The first part describes in a more general sense the long term aim(s). The Minimum programme has in turn two parts. First part has 10 aims to be implemented to improve the quality of social life in general - not just administration. The second part aims to improve work conditions of working classes. So it is not state centred at all. ---------------------- Doğan Göçmen Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Cockshott <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:46 Subject: RE: [OPE] English-German translations? Erfurt Programme That is not the issue here, it relates to election of judges which was in the RSDLP programme ( based on Erfurt programme ) Paul Cockshott Dept of Computing Science University of Glasgow +44 141 330 1629 www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/ -----Original Message----- From: ope-bounces@lists.csuchico.edu on behalf of GERALD LEVY Sent: Mon 7/21/2008 3:45 PM To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list Subject: RE: [OPE] English-German translations? Erfurt Programme > Ok so Bertrand Russell mistranslated it as Magistrate, it sounds more> as if they were demanding that the civil service be elected. Hi Paul C and others: I think that's consistent with the state (no pun intended) of German Social Democracy at the time - which was very 'state-centered' both in its programme for actions and in its vision of socialism. When this (state-centered) perspective was first adopted by the SPD (and to what it extent it was influenced by Engels) is another question. In solidarity, Jerry _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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