Re: [OPE] Inside OPE’s minds.

From: Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>
Date: Wed Sep 24 2008 - 08:22:14 EDT

I replied to Jerry under the label “Venezuelaand Human Rights Watch”.   I would like to see how Yaffe and Dogan face my argument besides to cheer on Jerry…   Regards, A. Agafonow ----- Mensaje original ---- De: "dogangoecmen@aol.com" <dogangoecmen@aol.com> Para: ope@lists.csuchico.edu Enviado: miércoles, 24 de septiembre, 2008 13:47:28 Asunto: Re: [OPE] Inside OPE’s minds. WELL SAID, JERRY!!!!!!! Dogan -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy <jerry_levy@verizon.net> To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> Sent: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:41 Subject: Re: [OPE] Inside OPE’s minds. > This test revels that you have either to revise your position toward left-wing dictatorships and > left authoritarian leaders, or that there is some confusion in your standard of values.   Hi Alejandro:   Yes, it is a sure sign of a "left-wing dictatorship" that workers' control is spreading throughout industry and that Chavez is President _now_ after the masses  spontaneously took to the streets in 2002 and refused to let the junta stand.  Land reform in Bolivia and Venezuela are also sure signs of dictatorship - all of these changes are just _so_ unfair to wealthy landowners, (domestic and international) capitalists, transnational corporations, friendly governments (like the US),  benign international lending agencies (like the World Bank) and cronies of the old regime. Shame, shame on Chavez!  Is it my standard of values which need to be revised or yours?  Do you favor workers' control, nationalization, and land reform?   There _may_ have been some violations of democratic rights towards the (right-wing, neo-fascist) opposition in Venezuela, but to blame that on the "dictatorship" of Chavez shows that one does not comprehend the characteristics and complexity of the Bolivarian movement - a movement which has many different perspectives and political tendencies. Chavez "controls" that movement rather loosely - like a shepherd of cats.    In solidarity, Jerry   PS: I feel your pain towards Castro and Cuba. Just think of how much less suffering there would have been there had Cuba just agreed to maintain its neo-colonial relationship with the US!  How awful of them to demand self-determination and true independence. Bad, bad Castro! ______________________________ _________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope ________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

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