Re: [OPE] One party state?

A.Agafonow,

Isn't this sentence somewhat of a contradiction?
"Let’s try to avoid propaganda which only satisfies the thirst of retaliation on behalf of your Stalinist militancy".

P.Bullock
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  From: Alejandro Agafonow
  To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list
  Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [OPE] One party state?

  D. Yaffe, can you offer a quotation from my posts in support of your accusation that I back imperialism or the oppressors over the oppressed? I assume you have clearly identified these items that allegedly uncover my undemocratic nature…

  Please, let’s be serious. Let’s try to avoid propaganda which only satisfies the thirst of retaliation on behalf of your Stalinist militancy. OPE is intended to be beyond this, isn’t it?

  Regards,

  A. Agafonow

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  De: "david@danyaf.plus.com" <david@danyaf.plus.com>
  Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
  Enviado: domingo, 7 de junio, 2009 16:53:44
  Asunto: RE: [OPE] One party state?

  I totally share Jerry's view. There is little point in continuing the discussion without understanding class interests. Democracy is simply a bourgeois concept in Alejandro's hands - it stands for the status quo - the rule of the imperialists, the oppressors over the oppressed.

  David Yaffe

  At 15:20 07/06/2009 +0100, you wrote:

> The problem Jerry is that you are an apologist of left wing dictators.
     
     
     
    Alejandro:
     
    The problem is that you don't recognize what a dictatorship is and isn't.
    What you consistently refuse to do is introduce *class* into the analysis
    of the meaning of democracy and dictatorship. Because you don't employ
    class analysis, you are trapped in a narrow BOURGEOIS understanding of
    the meaning of democracy - you fail to grasp the meaning of BOURGEOIS
    DEMOCRACY. The many millions of people who don't share the US- and
    Euro-Centric liberal capitalist interpretation of democracy and the goals
    of international imperialism understand that that *any* government which
    is in favor in practice of self-determination and governance and control
    of the economy by working people will be denounced by imperialism and
    its defenders as being dictatorships. The question isn't who is or isn't
    an apologist for "left wing dictators"; the question is who is an apologist
    for capital and imperialism.
     
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