[OPE-L:2965] Re: Re: Re: Dialectical Contradictions, Positivism?

From: riccardo bellofiore (bellofio@cisi.unito.it)
Date: Sun Apr 30 2000 - 10:30:26 EDT


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Rakesh,

        I apologize in advance if the following questions are stupid
questions. Thanks, however, for your answers.

At 20:43 +0100 29-04-2000, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
>Riccardo, here is an attempt at clarification:
>Money as category mistake: the one commodity which in its bodily shape
>incarnates a conceptual property (abstract labor) or the equivalence class
>itself of which all commodities are members.

Do you think abstract labor is a 'conceptual property'? You seem to be in
favor of Colletti. Does not this definition goes against his view of
abstract labor as real abstraction?
>
>Mysteries of commodities: by their exchangeability against money, all
>thingly commodities prove themselves to be material and conceptual,
>sensuous and supra-sensuous things.

Agreed
>
>We can argue that these violations of the principles of non-contradiction
>(member and class, thing and concept) are resolved through Hegel's logic.

Why resolved? It's not better to say: expressed?

>But this would then dispense with Marx's critique of the metaphysically
>illformed nature of reality if it is through things that our social labor
>is organized. Once we realize this the necromancy of commodities
>disappears.

This makes me that actually you think of revolution as some kind of therapy
(I don't want to be outrageous, I'm just trying to understand).

BTW: the more and more I think that, once the capitalist system is fully
constituted and the phase of real subordination of labor to capital is
reached, alienation on the market is *dependent* on the living labor of the
wage worker being asbtract labor in the capitalist production process,
rather than the other way round. This is a point Colletti never reached.

riccardo

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