[OPE-L:7819] Re: "Hic Rhodus, hic salta!"

From: Fred B. Moseley (fmoseley@mtholyoke.edu)
Date: Mon Oct 14 2002 - 21:40:45 EDT


Riccardo, I agree that there is seldom decisive textual evidence to
support any interpretation of Marx's theory.  However, for some issues, I
think the textual evidence is clearly stronger for one interpretation than
for another interpretation.  For other issues, the textual evidence is
more mixed and even.

For example, I think that the textual evidence that the total
surplus-value is taken as given in Volume 3 and does not change as a
result of the determination of the individual parts of surplus-value in
Volume 3 is clearly stronger than any alternative.  When I say "the total
surplus-value does not change," I mean "total profit = total
surplus-value" in Part 2, and "total industrial profit + merchant profit =
total surplus-value" in Part 4, and "total (industrial + merchant) profit
+ interest = total surplus-value' in Part 5, etc.  

I think the textual evidence to support this interpretation is much
stronger than any interpretation (including the standard interpretation
and your interpretation, as I understand it), according to which the total
surplus-value changes, or according to which total profit is not equal to
total surplus-value, etc.  I really think this is pretty clear cut.  We
could go through Volume 3, part by part, as I have done in my papers, and
in each part Marx stated that the total surplus-value is taken as given
and is a prerequisite for the determination of each particular individual
component of surplus-value.  And by the method used to determine each
individual component part of surplus-value (e.g. equal rates of profit in
Part 2), it is clear that the total surplus-value does not and can not
change as a result of the determination of this individual part
(e.g. total profit = total surplus-value in Part 2).  

On the other hand, I think the textual evidence for the issue of the
givens in Marx's theory - the determination of constant capital and
variable capital - is more of a toss-up.  I think there is substantial
textual evidence to support both interpretations.  I do not claim any
conclusive textual evidence for this issue.  

In this latter case, when the textual evidence is inconclusive, then I
argue (as in my last post) that one way to further assess these two
interpretations is to examine the consistency of each interpretation with
other aspects of Marx's logical method, and in particular, with the key
aspect just discussed - that the total surplus-value is determined prior
to its division into individual parts and does not change (in the sense
described above) as a result of the determination of the individual parts
of surplus-value in Volume 3.  

My interpretation of a given money wage and an unchanging variable capital
is consistent with the prior determination and unchanging total
surplus-value in Volume 3.  Since variable capital does not change from
Volume 1 to Volume 3, and neither does the total new-value produced, the
total surplus-value (the difference between new-value and variable
capital) also does not change from Volume 1 to Volume 3.  For example,
total profit = total surplus-value in Part 2.

On the other hand, the standard interpretation and Riccardo's
interpretation of the determination of variable capital from a given real
wage means, for example, that total profit will not equal total
surplus-value in Part 2, thereby contradicting this other key aspect of
Marx's method.

Therefore, I conclude that taking variable capital as given, as the money
wage advanced, is the more appropriate interpretation of Marx's method
determination of variable capital, because only this assumption is
consistent with the other key aspect of Marx's method of an unchanging
total surplus-value (in the sense described above). 

Riccardo, thanks again for the discussion.

Comradely,
Fred


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