From: Michael Williams (michaelj.williams@TISCALI.CO.UK)
Date: Wed Sep 24 2003 - 07:35:23 EDT
Hello Michael, Why participate then? michael ------------------------------------ Michael Williams 26 Glenwood Avenue Southampton SO16 3QA tel/fax: 02380768641 michaelj.williams@tiscali.co.uk mobile: 07906 172655 http://www.wmin.ac.uk/mwilliams > -----Original Message----- > From: OPE-L [mailto:OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU] On Behalf Of > Michael Eldred > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:26 AM > To: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU > Subject: Re: origins of industrial capitalism -- Middlemarch on PE > > > Cologne 24-Sep-2003 > > Or, to put it another way: I find the cramped, narrow horizon > of this list so depressing. Dorothea may help to brighten up > the atmosphere here. Don't you think it needs a woman's touch > to make the place come alive? > > Or: What is it like to bMW? > > Michael > _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ > _-_-_-_-artefact@t-online.de _-_ > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred > -_-_- > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > > -------- Original Message -------- > Betreff: Re: origins of industrial capitalism -- Middlemarch on PE > Datum: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:07:26 +0200 > Von: Michael Eldred <artefact@T-ONLINE.DE> > Rückantwort: OPE-L <OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU> > Firma: http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ > An: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU > Referenzen: > > Cologne 21-Sep-2003 > > Rakesh Bhandari schrieb Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:22:42 -0700: > > > >Cologne 20-Sep-2003 > > > > > >"She sat down in the library before her particular little heap of > > >books on political economy and kindred matters, out of > which she was > > >trying to get light as to the best way > > >of spending money so as not to injure one's neighbours, or -- what > > >comes to the same > > >thing -- so as to do the most good. Here was a weighty subject > > >which, if she could but > > >lay hold of it, would certainly keep her mind steady." (George > > >Eliot, Middlemarch, > > >Chapter Eighty-Three p.804) > > > > My interest is not as fleeting as Dorothea's; nor are my > motivations > > for this study in any way similar to hers. My wife the English > > professor tells me that you have inappropriately used the > passage. But > > then as with your idea of the Cartesian limits of Marx, I > again have > > no idea as to what you are on about. Rakesh > > Rakesh, > If taking a passage out of its context in a novel and putting > it next to thoughts on the origins of industrial capitalism > is inappropriate, then the use of the passage is > inappropriate. I prefer to call it juxtaposition. The > discrepancy can be productive, like an art work by Kurt Schwitters. > > Of course I don't want to suggest your interest in PE is > fleeting. I sent the e-mail with the above header more as a > note to myself. I like to have intriguing passages simply > work on me. Sometimes thoughts come. > > By contrast, I spent quite a deal of effort in this forum > trying to show why and how the Marxian approach to the > phenomenon of value has to be freed from its Cartesian > casting. That was not simply juxtaposition, but is flanked by > many years of work. > > Whether laconic or prolix, it seems to make no difference. > > Michael > _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ > _-_-_-_-artefact@t-online.de _-_ > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred > -_-_- > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ >
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