From: Anders Ekeland (anders.ekeland@ONLINE.NO)
Date: Tue Oct 23 2007 - 16:20:20 EDT
Hi Jerry, I've got to be brief: At 22:44 22.10.2007, Jerry wrote: >There is more to that particular story than appears on Kliman's web >pages, but you don't want to hear my side about that. So I won't >tell you. I will say that so long as there are pages like that at his >web site there will be continuing controversies and I expect they >will spill over here from time to time. When looking back on OPE-L from 1.1.07 to date, searching for TSSI in the body of the message, there is two main "outburst" of discussion of the TSSI, the first triggered by your "defamation den" - and then this last one "the vote taking". > > But still I think that Kliman and Freeman is not worse than others in > > a) logic b) representing the views of their opponents views c) > > clarifying their own concepts. > > >There is lots of evidence to the contrary but you don't want to hear >about that either. You just want to make an assertion - which imo can >not stand up to scrutiny. To me the main story is pretty clear. When it comes to polemical style I certainly do not agree with Kliman, it is too reminiscent of Marx, Lenin and others when they "kill" and ridicule opponents. But when it comes to substance I think that Kliman grasps his opponents point of view. > > That is way I react to Jerry's unprovoked introduction (for the > > second time) of such topics on OPE-L. They do more harm than good. > >You are wrong about that. I didn't raise the issue of the TSSI this Fall. >Others did. I simply changed the titles in the subject line from time to >time. See above - my quick (re)search point in the opposite direction. > > So Jerry, if you have a war to fight with Kliman and Freeman on such > > themes, do it in those arenas where you are attacked. Not here. > >I have been attacked here, as you - of all people - well know. I cannot remember any attack on you on OPE-L from Kliman&Freeman - they have not been on the list for years. If you have been attacked by other - direct you counterattack against them. > > Let's now proceed to discuss if there are any valid points in the > > TSSI-approach. > >I already dealt with that in my reply to Fred. Which I very much appreciate. >In solidarity, Jerry
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