[OPE] FWD: Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present

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From: "Paul Cockshott" <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present
Date: 11th August 2010
Time: 2:42:40 pm

I was not intending to be provocative. The point about Lars Lih and Mike Mcnair is that they explicitly defnd Kautsky and point to the considerable are of overlap between Kautsky and Lenin. Basically they are saying that there is no significant difference between Kautskyism and Leninism till after 1917. My own view is that whilst a clear reassertion of classical social democracy might be an improvement on the views of the CPs in the 50s onwards, it is far from adequate today, hence the critiques of them that I have published.
However if you are dealing with a doctrine in a critical fashion surely it is better for you to argue with people who explicitly endorse the doctrine.
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From: "david@danyaf.plus.com" <david@danyaf.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present
Date: 11th August 2010
Time: 12:45:46 pm

Paul C,

You are just being provocative. Kautsky was a renegade and chauvinist and the consequences of his position were more than disastrous for millions of working class and oppressed peoples. The second volume of Alec Abbott's work will be on Kautsky and I will let you know when it is up.

David Yaffe

At 09:42 10/08/2010 +0100, you wrote:
I was wondering what Dave Y makes of the very explicit adoption of Kautsky as a model theorist by
Mike Macnair and Lars Lih?
I wrote a critical review of MacNairs book which rehabilitates Kautsky here http://londonbookclub.co.uk/?p=617

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Subject: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present

The latest edition of FRFI has a review of an important new online book by
Alec Abbott - Kautskyism past and present. The review is in FRFI 216 - The
limits to opportunism - and is by Peter Howell. It can be found at:
http://www.revolutionarycommunist.org/index.php/reviews/1873-the-limits-to-opportunism--frfi-216-augsep-2010.html

If you have difficulty opening this go to the FRFI website at
www.revolutionarycommunist.org <http://www.revolutionarycommunist.org%a0/> - FRFI latest edition on left-hand side.

The book is a rigorous critique of writers such as Panitch and Gindin,
Negri, Perry Anderson, Brenner, Callinicos and Harvey. It also shows the
significance of Kautsky's different theories of ultra-imperialism and
examines the views of the above writers in that context. The book is the
first volume available so far of a three volume work. It can be found at:

www.rosclar.webspace.virginmedia.com<http://www.rosclar.webspace.virginmedia.com/>

Please pass this information on to others who might also be interested.

David Yaffe

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